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Re: HELP EDITOR SCREWED MY MAP

Posted: May 17 2020
by mrgenie
So, found the problem..

the libreoffice put a lot of ,,,,, in files where they shouldn't been. So the problem wasn't just in 1 file but multiple files..

after cleaning all the,,,,,,,, things run again.

Thanks for pointing out it must be some file Baltagor!

so to other modders, be AWARE of libreoffice.. it works.. just clean the files afterwards.

Re: HELP EDITOR SCREWED MY MAP

Posted: May 17 2020
by mrgenie
Rosalis wrote:
May 17 2020
Well im curious what your working on then, i thougt you just started with modding in SRU.

Space game from BG? I will prolly buy it on sale, play it once, get dissapointed and leave it at that. No offence but only from a major studio with tons of depth i have faith in a strategic space game. SR next gen is next version of SRU, well not certain, it might be modern times focus only. It will be after the space game, but i heard them say they thinking about hiring a new team for SR next gen in june. SR Galactic is the space game.

Dont get me wrong obviously i like the game, but just it could be way better not even by programming just making the right modding descisions, alot of them can be found in SR2020. In my opinion there was too much focus on making units and other things realistic, which then turned out to be making no sence or feel not completed or even biased towards the east. If i started now, i would prolly use alot of text files from SR2020 and update them like techs and unit database.
Well I understood that next gen is a space game with space colonization.. IF I understood it wrong, then I hope I understood it wrong.. because I honestly like earth-games.

And yes, I agree these space games should be done by big studios.. or actually, by no one. I played several in the past. I feel they are all so unrealistic and so much fantasy or wishful thinking.
I'm a mechanical engineer, sorry but what all these games present.. either we're thousands of years away from achieving that level of technology or it's simply BS not funded by any basic law of physics, but yeah, physics change over time.. so who knows.. either way, feels a lot like fantasy games to me this whole space age development.

The best we can hope for the next few hundred years is putting a few colonies in our own solar system.

the biased towards the east you're right, but that's especially in modern times. The reason for that is simple, and yes I lived many years in Russia so I know what I'm going to write here:
BG like all game studios rely on what's written on paper! Well if you believe Putin, the Lada is much better than a mercedes!
Trust me, in winter my neighbors driving LADA don't even try to start their cars while my made in EU car simply starts with the push of a button even at -40 celsius :)

That's also with their weapons. On paper it all looks amazing, truly marvelous. The S-400 can shoot down a F-35 hundreds of miles away.. wow..

and now reality, they can be glad if a S-400 can actually detect a F-35 at 60miles and plot an interception course at 30miles and actually get that missile close enough overcoming
the EWS of the F-35 to at least 1 out of 10 shots within a 30mile range actually make a hit.

Since that standard S-400 battalion to pull this off cost over 650 Million and a F-35 cost 85 million, the F-35 thus there with 8, for that price, the other 7 still out of range of the S-400 to detect them, the one actually getting close enough to let the S-400 switch on active high band for the trajectory plotting, the moment it does that the other F-35 100% take out the S-400 radar while at the same time informing all forces of NATO the exact location of the S-400 units part of the battalion..

But yeah on paper a S-400 can easily slaughter all of NATO ROFL..

Same with the Armata T-14, of course on paper a few Armata T-14 can easily slaughter the 14.000 MBT of NATO. Sure, a few Armata on paper can easily do that.
And now reality, there are so many flaws with the design still and money for further development stuck anyway.. probably the 100 Russia have won't even be able to combat 20 Challenger II.

but yeah, on paper everything in Russia is supreme..

And that's not just since the end of the cold war. We know from real tank fights also the Chechnya war and Iraqi war USSR tanks 1980+ vs US tanks 1980+
Sure on paper the Russian tanks would just slaughter all US tanks in a few minutes..

and now reality: the Russian tanks didn't stand a chance

Read the documents how they failed.. I always believe the Dutch NOS news propaganda that Arabs are idiots and that's why they performed so bad but the Russian tanks itself they were just 1000 times better than western tanks.

And then I read the real reports.. how it wasn't that Arabs are idiots, in fact Iraqi forces WELL TRAINED!

But the Russian tanks are so flawed, if they shoot a few rounds in combat training their gun tubes already start to wear out! :lol:

Americans can shoot 1000 times and the accuracy is still there..
Russian made tanks, and that's my experience also with LADA, when you buy it in the showroom it's all AMAZING and on paper the LADA is just Gold and the Mercedes is ****!"
but first time I came to Russia I asked my Girlfriend:"Wow, everyone here have a car accident, bad drivers!!!" and she asked me:"Why you think that?"
And I said:"well I know from the ADAC and ANWB that you can recognize accident cars by looking if the doors are still in place, the openings still aligned, etc, these are all so
bend and out of place..thus accident cars" and she then told me:"That's normal with our cars, after a few months already the doors start to wear down"

And then I read this also on reports from the Bundeswehr on Russian tanks they got from the DDR. Claiming:"useless!" After shooting a few training rounds you gotta replace the tube and after 50-100 the whole turret to maintain the accuracy as mentioned on paper.

So the Iraqi shooting and shooting and never hitting US tanks wasn't because they are idiots, as mentioned by NOS in NL, but in fact they just have Russian crap!

But of course, BG has to rely on the technical papers by Russia and they say 1 Russian tank can slaughter a whole US brigade in a few minutes :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

When it comes to Russia, better to watch real field experiences and forget what's written on paper.

Real field S-300 and S-400 tried very hard to intercept and lock on Israeli and US planes and missiles. 0% success.

Re: HELP EDITOR SCREWED MY MAP

Posted: May 17 2020
by Rosalis
Its just how you like to look at it. What you are saying about the Dutch NOS channel was created in the last Afghan war. Some party created a fake news channel and reported in English under the name of the NOS. This created alot of damage for Netherlands that views were right and hate towards moslims. I think you said earlier that Dutch doesnt fight. I guess you never heard of the 80 year war.

Its still a game, if US was so supreme, who is it gonna fight against? It wouldnt be a match like you say. And i thought you claimed to prefer balance above realism. People said the same before the war against Vietnam. What you say, is excactly what Hitler said against his generals. US military might be ok now, since Trump actually cares, but under Obama alot of US military claim it was definetely another time. Same thing for Germany under Merkel.

Russia is fine as far i am concerned, the Armata might be a bit overpowered, but you can say what you want, from winning territory too ending conflicts last years, Russia is there, its just the rest thats basicly isolated and are left with WW1 techs. To some point thats fine, but when they get picked on, Russia should take action in the game, same for US. Thats why you gonna want oversea bases after some point. Big wish of mine, share military facilities from allies for a big price. All in all its too easy to continue annexing enemies 1 by 1. I prefer countries to setup their own local spheres, pick their superpower and work from there.

Anyway we already see some interesting mods coming up in the workshop, so yeah thats great. For everyone their own taste and you can pick the best out of each and create your own.

Re: HELP EDITOR SCREWED MY MAP

Posted: May 17 2020
by YaYo7
mrgenie wrote:
May 17 2020
Real field S-300 and S-400 tried very hard to intercept and lock on Israeli and US planes and missiles. 0% success.
Between Russia and the USA and between Russia and Israel, there is an agreement not to shoot at each other in Syria. No wonder that 0% success. :-)

Re: HELP EDITOR SCREWED MY MAP

Posted: May 18 2020
by Rosalis
Ok after about 2 years i tried map editor again. First i couldnt get it to work, but after copying the backup file of the map editor i got it to work (adding resources). So maybe that can help with the cities too. So in map scenario/custom it wil create a new map for your mod, this are the backupfiles for the editor. You need to copy the mapx and the oof file from here, not the files in maps/. Those you need to replace.

Re: HELP EDITOR SCREWED MY MAP

Posted: May 18 2020
by mrgenie
YaYo7 wrote:
May 17 2020
mrgenie wrote:
May 17 2020
Real field S-300 and S-400 tried very hard to intercept and lock on Israeli and US planes and missiles. 0% success.
Between Russia and the USA and between Russia and Israel, there is an agreement not to shoot at each other in Syria. No wonder that 0% success. :-)
you are misinformed. I'm talking about the "getting a lock" to plot for "interception course"

Both US and Israeli Air Force pilots reported their EWS went active informing them ground radar installation low band detected their presence.

That's for the situational awareness, nothing wrong with that. They all do that. BUT the moment a AA installation switches on X-Band, that's the one you
need for interception, for plotting the actual interception course to get your missile close enough for it's own system to plot the remaining final km
to actually hit.

And there's also nothing wrong with trying to get a lock, as long as you don't actually fire the missile! That's what the agreement is about.
The agreement doesn't say Syrian/Russian anti-Air isn't allowed to use their radar... they are allowed and do they so! And they try to get a lock on
everything in the air. But they simply don't actually launch on "friendlies"

You don't switch that on, unless you want to see if you can plot the interception course. And that one is actually the one you need to plot the interception course.

It works very sophistical but the pilot can detect if the ground station got a lock on him. It uses Fourier Analysis and quite some filtering techniques to get a convergence
criteria on the band signals which can and will be detected by the pilot. As long as the frequencies and multi phases are still randomly acquiring the basic triangulation
they did NOT get a lock. That is easy to be detected by airplane systems. The point is, they detected the Russians and Syrians both switched on these bands to try
to actually plot interception courses (if they then also fire the missile is another question) but the point is although they tried they never got a lock!

This has many reasons obviously modern planes have a lot of EWS and to get a lock on a modern F-35 the pilot has to get within 30-40miles of the S-300/S-400 radars
and even then, with EWS and maneuvering they can get out of the lock again before the missile is close enough.

Point is, they tried to get a lock and never managed to get a lock. As such, without a lock to plot the interception course, the chance to hit is 0%
OK, not 0%, if you send up 100.000 missiles each costing 10 Million USD you might get a lucky hit.

Facts is:"they tried to get a lock, and they couldn't!"

Re: HELP EDITOR SCREWED MY MAP

Posted: May 18 2020
by mrgenie
Rosalis wrote:
May 18 2020
Ok after about 2 years i tried map editor again. First i couldnt get it to work, but after copying the backup file of the map editor i got it to work (adding resources). So maybe that can help with the cities too. So in map scenario/custom it wil create a new map for your mod, this are the backupfiles for the editor. You need to copy the mapx and the oof file from here, not the files in maps/. Those you need to replace.
Yes I know that :) I do watch the "latest change time stamp" on files to verify if and which files are actually saved :)

Re: HELP EDITOR SCREWED MY MAP

Posted: May 19 2020
by Rosalis
Ok MR Genie sorry for trying to help.

Re: HELP EDITOR SCREWED MY MAP

Posted: May 19 2020
by YaYo7
mrgenie, by no means do I want to offend you. Should send information about the bad work of the s-400 to the Ministry of Defense of Turkey, India and China. They are absolutely incompetent, spend their billions on useless trash :-) :-) :-)