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What you are talking about is a modern engineering division. In the game, the engineers we build don't have a required tech level. May be the engineers should have levels too like 1950, 1970, 1990 etc.bergsjaeger wrote:Well U were talking about Engineers not having anti-tank weapons. I seen something on the military channel a minute ago. An engineer in the 1st Us armor battalion in the latest Iraq war blew up a mine field with just 3 bombs. The tank in front of the column actually was pushed back from the explosion. Now if u get 350 engineers with 3 bombs each and set them all up for an ambush aganist a tank battalion I imagine either the tanks will be disabled or damaged beyond fighting. Then if the tankers are stupid enough to try and get out of their tanks they be cut down by the engineers shooting at them. that's not saying the entire battalion be wiped out but will be missing a few tanks.
I don't believe that a WWII sapper/engineer could stand against a modern tank battalion, no chance. Their AT guns wouldn't even penetrate the modern armor.
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I don't think the engineers are that old in the game. For example the US rangers are in the game and and don't have a tech level. (the II one's do)So does that mean their the world war 2 ones because of that. Their more likely the modern one even though they don't have a tech level. So think of engineers in that way. They are modern in every sense.
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OK, I understand your point that they should be thought as modern divisions, but then still I believe that since the mine laying/mine sweeping functionality wasn't introduced to the game, that should be discarded as a justification for the engineers having high hard attack values. IMO a bunch of engineers cannot withstand the power of a tank battalion.
I still would like to hear other peoples opinions on this.
I still would like to hear other peoples opinions on this.
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Marines engineers then...
http://www.military.com/soldiertech/0,1 ... S,,00.html
http://www.military.com/soldiertech/0,1 ... S,,00.html
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Well by just their name engineer implies their are not a real combat element but more of a support. But they are trained as regular soldiers before they get a specialty in engineering. I don't think though the US or other countries would use a full battalion in combat like regular infantry. Course a country backed to the wall might.
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Yep... and thats why i think (imho) the engineers should have highdust off wrote:True, they get attatched to formations when the situation calls for it to make combined arms teams.I don't think though the US or other countries would use a full battalion in combat like regular infantry.
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Engineers can supliment, even multiply the combat power of infantry, and armoured units. On very rare occasions they have fought well independently, but this would be the expception that proves the rule. Engineers are not equipped, nor trained to engage an enemy independently and thus their values in SR2010 make them unrealistic.Yep... and thats why i think (imho) the engineers should have high
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