Design availability

[d0mbo]

Wonder if anyone can help me with this.

Currently i am running a game as Madagascar. The long (and boring for some) get-a-crappy-country-to-rule-the-world type of game. Currently, after having my economy somewhat up and running, i finally am able to do some decent research (mind you: research projects might still take over a year te complete).

I want to build something of a fleet first, however, i am curious what techs will lead me to what designs. And suddenly it struck me, is it true Madagascar belongs to the "other"group, thus limiting my research to just the "other"design models? I was hoping i could at least research some (S.)African units? Basically all my research will now lead to about one unit per class (if even an "other" design is in the game- which for destroyers doesnt seem to be the case).

Basically: is Madagascer an "other"country? If not: what is it?
Secondly: if so, will this limit available designs to this group, which means i cant develop a destroyer class or even my own MBT?

Regards,

d0mbo.

[Lightbringer]

Madagascar's design tree...or lack thereof has been discussed before, I'm at work or I'd find a thread to link you to. Basically you are right, Madagascar doesn't have much of a selection. You will have to go shopping for what you need. I have never played it, so I don't know if you get zero destroyer designs, but I would hazard a guess that if you do get one it won't be anything to write home to mother about. Save some of the cash you are using for research and use it to buy a few key designs to fill the holes in your arsenal.

Hope this helped, and good luck!

-Light

[Balthagor]

...Basically: is Madagascer an "other"country?...

Yes, it only has access to units marked as region codes "O" (Other) or "*" (Worldwide)

[d0mbo]

Well,

I must say you guys are FAST!

Unfortunately, although expected, these werent the answers i hoped for. may i make a request for SR2020: to make sure even the obscure countries can develop unit designs of every type (at least one)? This would add a lot of playablilty to these countries. Playability > Realism.

or do i step on some toes.

back on topic: is there a way of trading for unit designs from other continents (i am in the africa scenario). Currently, only S-Africa has something to offer. Unfortunately, it seems they'll declare war on me soon.....

[Balthagor]

...Unfortunately, although expected, these werent the answers i hoped for. may i make a request for SR2020: to make sure even the obscure countries can develop unit designs of every type (at least one)? This would add a lot of playablilty to these countries. Playability > Realism...

This has already been discussed in another thread. The short answer is that there will be more designs for obscure countries but there may still be a few gaps. To be tested later...

And you can trade other regions for designs, but obviously there are only African regions with you in the scenario. You may find you or other regions get designs from the WM.

[Lightbringer]

Currently, only S-Africa has something to offer. Unfortunately, it seems they'll declare war on me soon.....

Don't let that red filled Belli meter scare you off. I have purchased weapons systems from regions only to have them declare war on me within a few days of the sale. It seems the AI is quite happy to keep bu$ine$$ and hostilities separate, at least until the starting gun is fired.

Also Chris has a very good point. In fact, unit designs are almost the only thing I will purchase from the WM.

[d0mbo]

This has already been discussed in another thread. The short answer is that there will be more designs for obscure countries but there may still be a few gaps. To be tested later...

And you can trade other regions for designs, but obviously there are only African regions with you in the scenario. You may find you or other regions get designs from the WM.

Sorry if this thread has overlap with another one, wasnt my intention. I am happy this will be looked into for SR2020 : -)

Lightbringer, any way to get the WM to trade more unit designs instead of the 5x << fill in obsolete equipment here>> offer. Not that i want to be ungrateful of course : -)

Anyway, thanks all for the answers!

[Lightbringer]

I'm not sure how smart the WM trading AI is. I could be imagining things, but after rejecting about a dozen
5 X Unit you really don't want or need
Value offered 220.3 million....Price asked 660.9 million

and accepting only missile units and unit designs (perhaps 4 of each), the WM started to increase the number of designs and missile batches it offered me. It didn't stop offering me the other equipment, but the ratio became more tilted towards things I would accept. So either it "learns" a little bit as it goes along, or the numbers of existent units I had built changed it's equation.

Also, keep in mind that the designs it keeps selling me are mostly as useless as the pre-built units, but some have been very useful. I just buy the designs because I have the cash, because I get a better monetary value for such deals, and because I want to encourage the WM to keep offering them. If nothing else, it is good for a little WM brown nosing.

(Edit: I am probably not the best teacher in how to work with the WM. I have a habit of telling them where to stuff it as soon as I become reasonably self sufficient in commodities. )