ainsworth74 wrote:Im not trying in anyway to stir things here, but why does scotland want its independence from the UK? Its one thing (among many others
) that I have never quite understood.
Ainsworth74,
For me personally its because Scotland was a country before we joined the Union in 1707 and has a rich history. You only now have to look at application forms as an example for change. If they are not specific asking whether a person is Scottish or is from Scotland many people are writing/ticking other when asked if they are from the United Kingdom or British.
We already have a nationalist government in power through devolution in Holyrood and this has been voted in democratically.
There are many things I could put here but unlike the propoganda that Scots are given more through the Barnett formula than to those in England it is not true. The Union for me simply does not work for Scotland. The Union is geared towards England because it has to be. It comes down to numbers. There is how many millions more people in England compared to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland? Is it 50 million people in England if not it can't be that far away! So Westminster has to bring in policies that look after England first and then every other country in the Union secondary.
And I understand that coming from Middlesbrough for many years your city was very industrialised. Dundee where I am from was the same. Dundee at one time supplied almost all of the worlds needs for jute and employed 50,000 people at its peak. It's all gone now and for 80 years we have not had anything to replace it. I want Scotland and the people within it to be able to make its own decision on the way forward.
Proof of poverty is in the figures from 2006. Of the 25 poorest areas in the United Kingdom; 22 of them are in Scotland and 3 of them are in my home city of Dundee. They are namely Bowbridge, Stobswell and Fairmuir. I want an independent Scotland that will allow us to take our destiny in our own hands.
The Union is just another form of colonialism. Right now Scotland takes in more money than it gets back through the Barnett formula.
Oh and contrary to certain Union opinions Scottish Nationalist Party members are not English haters and I'm certainly not. I have family in England. I want Scotland to trade with England and once we are Independent I think we will be allies for the future. The song Flower of Scotland was introduced in 1967 by the Corries as the alternative against the British National anthem God Save The Queen was drowned out at football and rugby matches alike by whistling and booing.
Flower of Scotland - Original Lyrics
O Flower of Scotland,
When will we see,
Your like again,
That fought and died for,
Your wee bit Hill and Glen,
And stood against him,
King Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
The hills are bare now,
And autumn leaves lie thick and still,
O'er land that is lost now,
Which those so dearly held,
And stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
Those days are past now,
And in the past
They must remain,
But we can still rise now,
And be the nation again,
That stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
I have highlighted in bold that even in 1967 Roy Williamson of the Corries was trying to get his point over that Bannockburn 1314 is in the past. It's part of Scotland and England's history. It is just that - History.
So I hope this helps a bit to make you understand. I have nothing against anyone from England - I just don't want my country to be owned by England any more.
Lol Scotland will now probably be taken over a few more times in Supreme Ruler 2020 after this posting
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