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 Post subject: major backfire
PostPosted: Nov 06 2007 
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what is the best amount to set the domestic markup for tkobo's strategy?
i set set it up to 100%. it started out good i had a stedy income of bout 2800 then few turns later BAM -3500 deficit !!! !!!
wtf i know now not to do that and dont rub it in but what is the maximum for domestic markup?

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Nothing wrong with a 100% markup for domestic.

Ive had over 700% markup in some regions.

Nor is a high markup likely to cuase your economy to colapse or your treasury to go into debt.

Your debt was caused by something else most likely,probably a minister making a purchase.
Make sure your imports are locked to none.

And remember to ask for the "execute minister" feature in sr2020 :wink:

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PostPosted: Nov 07 2007 
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i do not even folow tkobo game breaking doctrin but i have games with highy mark ups and they are not there reson for my contries going bakrupted


it me building privat 1000hect houses for my cronis :lol:


and i also what execute minster feature 2020 but with mutbil mods

1fir squad 2haging 3sutil assination 4public assination 5assintion where u blame a nother nation


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One cause for massive deficits that I have noticed repeatedly is your Minister cranking production of Industrial and consumer goods all the way up. Nothing wrong with this if you can sell all that stuff. Your budget may have -3,500...but what does it say your exports are bringing in?

The reason for this is that it records the cost of production in your budget, but your export income is recorded separately. Living off of export profits is risky. Competitors can undersell you, or customers dry up as international tensions grow.

Check your "production" cost, and compare it to domestic sales. Also look to see if the blue bar is full on the little production minister's screen.

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well it also may have helped the debt that i lowered the citizen funding to 1/2 of reccomended and plus i had the domestic products locked from AI control

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The little orange traffic cone/Infrastructure is good to keep at 100% +. The higher you keep it at the better your supply will be for both troops and factories (mines Oil wells etc. too). A good law enforcement level will reduce guerrilla activity in conquered territories. Education helps your research efficiency. Health care will help your population levels stay stable and boost your enlistment numbers somewhat.

Welfare/unemployment/retirement, pollution, Family subsidies, and cultural subsidies all suffer major if not complete budget cuts. They have helpful effects if you fund them...but not that helpful.

Mostly I shut out the ministers too. If you have a region with decent levels of supply of most things, you can put a minister named Paul Li (conservative) in charge of production. He will actually accomplish things that make sense more often than not. Just remember that not all the ministers behave the same. Some are worth using in the right situations.

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well with domestic prices high the income starts high then drops EVERY SINGLE DAY till it gets to the red :x

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That is because even little digital people don't like to pay 500$ for a pair of sneakers. (pure example) When you raise prices it lowers the amount you sell domestically. You have to find a balance point.

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Theres likely something else going on.

When you raise your domestic prices you automatically lower your gpd/c.Theres no way aournd it,its simply how the game is wired.

Think of it as a corporate downsize or cutback.

BUT and this is the really important part.As the Domestic prices go up, the gdp/c goes down, your expenses go down , the economy gets smaller , AND your profit margin goes UP.

So...... if you were in the black before hand, you should stay in the black.

If i was home, id say send me a save and id find the issue.But im currently not, so i cant .

So..... instead were going to have to do this the hard way.

1) what region are you playing in what scenario ?

2) What government type are you playing ?

3) What are your beginning economic stats .....
Income ?
Expenses ?
Balance ?

4)what are these after you raise your domestic prices ?

5) and of course the staple- is your game updated to the most recent version ?

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1. USA, WWIII
2. monarchy (so i dont need to worry bought domestic approval)
3. no idea you can probably figure this one out (income is in red)
4.income bought 2000-3000 if all domestic sales are 100% other stuff dont know
5. yes

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killerflood wrote:
2. monarchy (so i dont need to worry bought domestic approval)...


Low DAR will still hurt your production levels in a Monarchy...

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You didnt answer questions 3 & 4
The info you need to give me is:

what are your current :
Daily Income -
Daily Expenses-
Surplus/Deficit -


This information and the information i will ask afterwards can be found in this set of windows.
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how do u take photos? :oops: :lol:

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before
income-22760
expenses-25835
surplus/deficit- 3074

after
income- 28504
expenses-25835
surplus/deficit- 2669
^^^^
this is exactly after i apply changes

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print screen button, than paste in paint (or some other graphics program)

Has time run ?It doesnt look like it,your income and expenses both look too high.

It should settle down to a surplus of circa 1billion/day after a week or two.
Both income and expense will both fall alot.The main expense is production, this will fall the most.

And it should stabilize around 1 billion,i get more like 2 billion but i cut additional expenses.

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