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Re: It is Global Warming Comrade!!

#1141 Post by tkobo » Oct 05 2012

EPA has admitted to a federal court that it asks human guinea pigs to sacrifice their lives for regulatory purposes — and $12 per hour.
In their attempts to prove the "ebils" of fossil fuels via particle pollution,particularly PM2.5,the EPA ran tests that included putting people in weakened health states in a sealed room and pumping diesel exhaust into the room.

The EPA's own claims,both written and made before congress,state that such can result in a persons death.

The EPA claims it verbally informed the test participants death was a possible result of this test for them, BUT the informed consent forms (that are required by law )presented to and signed by the test participants,makes no mention at all of possible death.The forms also failed to mention other possible harmful side effects the EPA's own claims say could happen.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/49778
http://junkscience.com/2012/10/05/epa-a ... /#comments

Good luck finding this in the mainstream liberal press....Anyone want to bet these testers are counted among the "new" "green jobs" created.......you know like porta potty cleaners are.
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Re: It is Global Warming Comrade!!

#1142 Post by Col_Travis » Oct 05 2012

tkobo wrote:
EPA has admitted to a federal court that it asks human guinea pigs to sacrifice their lives for regulatory purposes — and $12 per hour.
In their attempts to prove the "ebils" of fossil fuels via particle pollution,particularly PM2.5,the EPA ran tests that included putting people in weakened health states in a sealed room and pumping diesel exhaust into the room.

The EPA's own claims,both written and made before congress,state that such can result in a persons death.

The EPA claims it verbally informed the test participants death was a possible result of this test for them, BUT the informed consent forms (that are required by law )presented to and signed by the test participants,makes no mention at all of possible death.The forms also failed to mention other possible harmful side effects the EPA's own claims say could happen.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/49778
http://junkscience.com/2012/10/05/epa-a ... /#comments

Good luck finding this in the mainstream liberal press....Anyone want to bet these testers are counted among the "new" "green jobs" created.......you know like porta potty cleaners are.
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Re: It is Global Warming Comrade!!

#1143 Post by tkobo » Oct 18 2012

Two more of obama's green give away companies went belly up this week....

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Now on to germany.Germany who used to be quite proud, and rightly so,for their extremely well run energy sector,is now predicting large scale power rationing and failures this winter.

germany who once maintained an incredibly good standard of only circa 21 minutes of power loss per year,is no longer mentioning numbers in this.Why ? because the "green" energy push resulted in a huge increase in power rationing and failures last year,that was somehow "unexpected" by the government.

...AND because the same gov just came out and predicted even worse rationing and power loss coming,starting this winter.

Not to mention that energy costs in germany have gone thru the roof,even as energy subsidies by the gov to prevent the soaring costs are also going thru the roof.The end result an est further 20% to 40% increase in the price for consumers in the coming months.

The same gov is also predicting that about 1 in 100 (roughly 800k out of 81m) wont be able to afford to power their homes this winter.This is something unheard of in germany,til now.
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Re: It is Global Warming Comrade!!

#1144 Post by tkobo » Oct 24 2012

another ecoloon supporter of agw suggests massive drugging of the population to make them more pro agw,as well as experimentation on and alteration of human children to make them "fit into the world better,ecologically"(paraphrased)
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and heres exactly how the epa felt they should test the effect of air pollution particles
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Theres a diesel truck idling outside the building,its exhaust hooked directly up to a machine that would funnel it directly where they wanted it.

Next,theres the computer console area where the "researcher" would sit to monitor the experiment,and the sealed camber in which the test subject sat.

With a picture of the inside end,inside that sealed chamber, of the machine and how it fed the exhaust directly into the test subject.

As they didnt want to kill the test subject outright,the exhaust was mixed with oxygen by the machine,in between the gather and administering points.....


But dont worry,its all just fine...
Just like the german mass experimentation on humans "to improve the race", the american Tuskegee experiment "for the advancement of medicine", the japanese Unit 731 experiments, south africa's aversion project,etc..

And its let not forget the original Helsinki Declaration, which stated “The interests of science and society should ever take precedence over the well being of the subject.” ,etc...

But again,dont worry,insane people doing insane things based on their "beliefs" isnt directly happening to you....is it....
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Re: It is Global Warming Comrade!!

#1145 Post by tkobo » Nov 08 2012

A new paper published in the Journal of Geophysical Research finds "there is no evidence that there are changes in the strength, frequency, duration, location or direction of propagation of El Niño and La Niña anomalies caused by global warming during the period from 1871 to 2008."
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chris mathews, mikey moore, and irans mullahs (among others) happy hurricane sandy struck the us.....

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“The World Bank has gone back to being in charge of climate change,” Bank of Italy Governor Ignazio Visco told reporters

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People with a clue, point out to the agw sandy crowd,that there were worse storms than sandy in a very short period of time in the past.1938,1944,1954,all there in a 20 year period.Yet it took more than 50 years for the ne atlantic to experience something like sandy again.

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Reports are,16 fisker karmas caught on fire and burned to the frame,while at least partially submerged in the flood waters from sandy.They were sitting at a port in nj.
More electric car and green energy successes...paid for by the gov.

2 recalls so far, one for every Karma model sold .2 ceos quit,3 different ceos in under a year.Production of next car delayed by a year as they hunt for another $150mil in funding (before they lost circa $30mil in cars in the port ,a total of 300 cars lost,something like 16 of which caught fire)
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#1146 Post by tkobo » Nov 16 2012

New paper published says clouds cools the climate,no runaway positive feedback system.The AGW scam claims clouds and water vapor act as a net positive feedback to cause warming.

This is the second published paper this year to shot down the mythical "runaway positive feedback ".

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A new paper published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences examines ice core and tree ring radionuclide ,finds solar activity at the end of the 20th century was at its highest levels of the past 9,400 years.And that cloud cover was decreased.

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The BBC,just isnt having a good year....seems its not only having a pedophile scandal,but after paying 6 lawyers to help them keep secret the names of circa 28 people who steered them into their pro agw agenda,and winning by defeating a freedom of information act request to see exactly who these people were and who they worked for, all that money and effort was wasted.

The information was on the web all along.You see, the BBC didnt think it was secret at the time,and the information was made public back then.Thanks to internet archives,the list has been found

Its all so penn state of them......
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Re: It is Global Warming Comrade!!

#1147 Post by tkobo » Dec 10 2012

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/28 ... te_change/
In other words the possible acceleration in ice losses is barely perceptible: it may not really be happening at all. Similar results were seen not long ago in GRACE data for central Asian mountain glaciers, another suggested source for sea-level rises.
imagine that.......
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#1148 Post by fool » Dec 10 2012

I'd feel more comfortable if that article were written by a scientist; as it is, it's ambiguous enough that I'm unsure of exactly what it's saying, but my best guess is:
annual acceleration in ice loss is much lower than previous research has suggested, roughly increasing by 8 billion tons every year. Previous estimates were as high as 30 billion tons more per year.
In other words, ice loss is increasing every year by about 8 bn tons.
the possible acceleration of losses is only barely larger than the margin of error in the readings: it's very difficult to tell the supposed loss curve from a straight line.
Most likely, this is comparing apples to oranges. There's a big difference between the rate of ice loss in a given year, and the rate at which that loss increases each year (rate of change of rate of change of ice). If that is indeed what is being referred to, it would certainly be noticeable. Hell, I ran a few numbers and it's ridiculously scary. Hence probably wrong, so I'm guessing when this author refers to "acceleration of ice loss" he is, in fact, talking about something else entirely.*

The question is, what?

And the other question is, do you trust some retarded journalist to interpret a science journal? I'd have taken a look myself, but unfortunately it was subscription only.


*The other most likely quantity I'm thinking of - that he meant net ice loss is around 8bn - would still be easily noticeable regardless of an error margin of 6bn or so for an individual year's ice loss.
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#1149 Post by Balthagor » Dec 10 2012

annual acceleration in ice loss is much lower than previous research has suggested, roughly increasing by 8 billion tons every year. Previous estimates were as high as 30 billion tons more per year.
the possible acceleration of losses is only barely larger than the margin of error in the readings: it's very difficult to tell the supposed loss curve from a straight line.
I caught these two lines also and noted that the author assumes that the margin of error will lean in the favour of his opinion not against it or middle ground. So best case scenario is it's only melting "a little"...
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Re: It is Global Warming Comrade!!

#1150 Post by tkobo » Dec 11 2012

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...At current (guessed at )melt rates, the Greenland ice sheet would take about 13,000 years to melt....
Quick, panic now ! After all, your doomed ! Theres no escape ! You must worry and cry ! And you must do so now !

Dont think !, Dont apply reason ! Call out in your impending doom to be saved ! the "angry" earth is out to get you ,all !

chuckle just doesnt go far enough......
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#1151 Post by fool » Dec 11 2012

I think applying reason in order to understand the concept of acceleration is a fine idea. Nevertheless, hardly anybody expects the Greenland ice sheet to melt in less than several centuries. You're attacking a strawman.
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#1152 Post by Balthagor » Dec 11 2012

I don't see how encouraging people to use blue bins, not idle their cars and consume less electricity is panicking. Over-blowing the negative effects of "green initiatives" is a classic tactic of those who like to claim zero environmental responsibility.
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Re: It is Global Warming Comrade!!

#1153 Post by tkobo » Dec 14 2012

.....and pretending theres an impending crisis and or disaster,is a classic way for conmen to garner large amounts of cash and attention.....as far too many people are gullible...OR take the irrational wager route... OR the ends justifies route....OR etc...
it may not really be happening at all
Says it all.
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#1154 Post by Balthagor » Dec 14 2012

Actually, if you re-read the article, what it says is that the "best case scenarios is that it's barely happening".
So the possible acceleration of losses is only barely larger than the margin of error in the readings
if the above statement is accurate;
- acceleration <is> larger than the margin of error
- loss is <accelerating>
- <best case>, the acceleration is marginal
it may not really be happening at all
I'll accept that ice loss may not be accelerating if you'll accept that the current loss rate may be caused by human factors. :P
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#1155 Post by tkobo » Dec 14 2012

Why would i accept something so unproven ?I was born far longer ago then yesterday......

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Ipcc ar5 draft leaked.....
Turns out the sun matters FAR more then theyved claimed,in the past.Id put up the links, but they are going dead almost as fast as they are appearing.Or so there are saying this time,which pretty much invalidates the last 4.
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