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#1171 Post by tkobo » Feb 25 2013

Britian dodges the bullet this time,and the "news" orgs manage to notice something the politicians pointed out their plan for energy would positively create...

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/379845 ... power-cuts
ONE million homes narrowly escaped a power cut last month as bitterly cold weather placed a massive strain on Britain’s creaking electricity network.Shutdown was only avoided because a gas-fired station due to close by next winter came to the rescue. Last night experts warned that life-threatening blackouts are increasingly likely as “we head downhill – fast”.
http://www.express.co.uk/comment/expres ... oing-green
That’s certainly what Energy Secretary Ed Davey tells us, saying it’s impossible to “turn back the tide” of rising energy prices.
Our energy policy is no longer dictated by the need to keep supply plentiful and cheap which for decades was the basis of all planning. Today energy policy is framed with only one factor in mind: satisfying the green lobby.

It is, to be blunt, mad. Next month we are forcing 10 per cent of our energy production plants to close in order to meet environmental targets.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... eting.html
Eco-tastrophe! How MPs in the pay of subsidised eco-firms set insane new carbon targets that send your bills sky-rocketing... and drag us to a new Dark Age
For the rest of us, however, the effects will be very different. It will cause already high energy bills to soar further and could lead to more power cuts. The effect on business is likely to be even more dramatic.
Even without the amendment, the long-term consequences of the Bill will be horrible,’ said Professor Gordon Hughes of Edinburgh University, one of Britain’s leading experts on energy economics. He issued a strong warning the ‘surreal’ amendment could spell the end of British industry. ‘It’s a recipe for deindustrialisation,’ he said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy ... o-you.html
The harsh fact is that successive governments in the past 10 years have staked our national future on two utterly suicidal gambles. First, they have fallen for the delusion that we can depend for nearly a third of our future power on those useless and unreliable windmills – which will require a dozen or more new gas-fired power stations just to provide back-up for when the wind is not blowing. Yet, at the same time, by devices such as the increasingly punitive “carbon tax” due to come into force on April 1, they plan to double the cost of the electricity we get from grown-up power stations, which can only have the effect in the coming years of doubling our electricity bills, driving millions more households into fuel poverty. --Christopher Booker
Its rather funny to see the "press" getting into a lather about the results of the very policies they have pushed over at least the last 5 years...Even funnier is that the "press" paid almost no attention to the politicians when they openly explained said policies were going to have said effect....And of course ,both pale before the humor that the "press" has finally gotten a hint of the simple fact that eco-loons,are in fact eco-loons...

To paraphase a quote from above and apply it to the "press"....They are to be blunt,mad......
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Re: It is Global Warming Comrade!!

#1172 Post by tkobo » Mar 07 2013

http://principia-scientific.org/support ... error.html
Well worth the read.
Principia Scientific International (PSI) has peer-reviewed Kalmanovitch's analysis and agrees that Hansen manufactured “a fraudulent basis for a claim that the surface temperature is increasing because of CO2 because Te is [falsely] made constant.”

IN fact,the original study is also.
http://www.climatemonitor.it/wp-content ... 2/1974.pdf
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#1173 Post by tkobo » Mar 07 2013

But when checked for statistically significant warming, the warming pause extends by every measure to more than 15 years:

For RSS the warming is not significant for over 23 years…

For UAH the warming is not significant for over 19 years…

For Hadcrut3 the warming is not significant for over 19 years…

For Hadcrut4 the warming is not significant for over 18 years…

For GISS the warming is not significant for over 17 years...
And keep in mind," statistically significant warming" is warming that is still inside the claimed error rate.But believers dont fret,just as when the believers said their models could NOT be called invalid unless the models failed for 10 years,and then raised that to 15 years after they did indeed fail for 10 years.They have now said,that the models cant be considered inaccurate til they have failed for 40 years,now that the models have failed for over 15years :lol:
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#1174 Post by tkobo » Mar 21 2013

Numbers are in from australia,and its looking horrendous for businesses and jobs....

The recent months following the carbon tax have set a new record in companies that went into " voluntary administration",this is pretty much the australian version of chapter 11 bankruptcy.An example is a glass factory in Sydney that recently went under,who's books showed a $500k rise in annual costs due to the carbon tax.150 jobs lost...

and examples are easy to find....with estimates of up to 30% of additional cost in electricity bills alone for the average small or medium business.

Most of which, again, the government openly admitted would be a result of their policies before enacting them.

Revenues from the carbon tax,have been much lower than predicted,oddly....according to the gov.And the gov is now predicting the revenues will shrink,pushing them even further below estimates.

....sooooo... you have ....less jobs,less businesses staying afloat,both of which greatly decrease tax income for the gov,AND a lower than predicted income from the carbon tax causing this,now predicted to get even lower....
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#1175 Post by tkobo » Mar 27 2013

http://www.pbl.nl/en/news/newsitems/201 ... pcc-report

Get a look at this while you can,its very hard to believe even the loons pushing agw will think this is a good thing for people to see about the upcoming ipcc report......

...and this is their solution to the massive screwup the last IPCC Assessment Report was :lol:
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#1176 Post by tkobo » Apr 06 2013

Wow, just wow.


http://blog.nj.com/njv_paul_mulshine/20 ... stein.html

Well worth the read.One of the greatest scientific minds in the world,has shown he actually has a clue.
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#1177 Post by Balthagor » Apr 07 2013

Yeah, I'd listen to the things he says;

"Dyson agrees that anthropogenic global warming exists, and has written that "[o]ne of the main causes of warming is the increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere resulting from our burning of fossil fuels such as oil and coal and natural gas." - source

I don't mind skeptics, but to completely deny global warming is as bad as blind acceptance of it.
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#1178 Post by tkobo » Apr 07 2013

as your so fond of informing others,when sarcasm is used,be sure its expressed clearly as sarcasm :wink:

As for his belief,it depends on the definition.agw in which the world is doomed,the typical doom mongering of the loons,he is NOT a believer in.

What he might believe,is that since the ice age ended the world has been warming a small amount, and that some of that in the modern era might be caused by man-made factors.Warming which in NO way threatens man or the world,but is instead beneficial.

As always,the key is in the definition.Something the ecoloons have not once,ever ,yet managed to agree on.But something they constantly seek to change to fit the moment of their claims.Hence we have agw,climate change,global climate disruption,global weirding ,etc....Names the loons use as interchangeable,never actually sticking to a given definition of any of the "new" names,or the old ones.

So if you want to put forth that he believes in agw,be sure to define,which form your making your claim on......

His stance against the loons crying doom, against the jokingly inaccurate models (many of which show signs or purposeful inaccuracy),and of course against the idea that co2 is ebil....all show reasonable thought and critical thinking .Hence he at least has some clue....

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On a positive side,hansen is leaving nasa.This means nasa will have a chance to get its reputation back, and stop looking so foolish.Of course that he wasnt drummed out,will forever be a stain on nasa's reputation.
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#1179 Post by tkobo » Apr 26 2013

First, as even the New York Times points out, this study determined that the Arctic was warmer during the 1940s to 1970s than during years of the late 20th century. (Sidebar: If the approximate modern instrumental global warming increase of 0.85°C since 1850 is added to the Greenland ice core data, modern warming is still below peaks of the Medieval & Roman periods.) Confirms view of skeptics, check.

Second, the study determined that periods prior to 1000AD had warmer temperatures in Europe. Confirms view of skeptics, check.

Third, this study finds Antarctica was warmer, from the 2nd through 13th centuries, than during our modern era. (Sidebar: If the approximate modern instrumental global warming increase of 0.85°C since 1850 is added to the Vostok ice core data, modern warming is still below the peak temperature between 1AD and 1000AD.) Confirms view of skeptics, check.
Fourth, this study points out that true global warming has not taken place in the modern era, but regional strong warming has. Of the 7 regional areas analyzed, only 3 exhibit a strong warming (more likely only 2, see point #11 below). The other four regions, not so much. Confirms view of skeptics, check.

Fifth, the study clearly indicates that major climate change is taking place at all times, in different manners, across the globe. Climate change is not some new modern phenomenon. Confirms view of skeptics, check.

Sixth, the study shows atmospheric CO2 levels are not a cause of past major climate change. Throughout most of the last 2,000 years, CO2 levels are stable yet climate change is constantly happening. Confirms view of skeptics, check.

Seventh, the study documents that unprecedented regional warming takes place regardless of low/high atmospheric CO2 levels. Confirms view of skeptics, check.

Eighth, this study, in combination with the known recent global temperature trend (subsequent to this study's ending date of 2000AD), clearly makes an indisputable case that recent modern global warming is not as claimed: unprecedented; unequivocal; irrefutable; irreversible; nor dangerously accelerating. Confirms view of skeptics.

Ninth, this study affirms that periods of "unprecedented" warming do not cause the IPCC's urban legend of "runaway," "tipping point," dangerous global warming. Of course, the hottest period ever recorded (Minoan era) in the ice cores over the last 4,000 years already proved that the mythical "tipping point" is just that. Confirms view of skeptics, check.

Tenth, this study again provides proof that the AGW-alarmist researchers will use each and every attempt to remove and/or minimize the exceptional Medieval Warming Period that the vast majority of local/regional paleo research studies, and the historical literature, have well documented. It is simply freaking amazing that this group of researchers would present an analysis of Europe's past warming without the extreme and extended warming of the Medieval era (see chart on right). Confirms view of skeptics, check.

Eleventh, this study clearly proves to the public that the proponents of AGW-alarmism will utilize excessive cherry-picking of empirical paleo research to fabricate their "scientific" claims of modern "unprecedented" warming. Not only did this study exclude the preponderance of paleo-scientists' research that documents past extreme warming, but this study was brazen enough to include paleo temperature reconstructions that even a peer-reviewed science journal ultimately rejected because of its statistical flim-flam. Without the infamous, widely discredited Gergis et al. study, it is highly likely that the "Australasia" region of the above chart on the left would have to be moved to the chart of the right, above - thus leaving just 2 regions of the world that may have had modern "unprecedented" warming in the 20th century, and only a single region of the world that had "unprecedented" warming since 1970 (recall that this study confirmed the Arctic was warmer from the 1940s to the 1970s). Confirms view of skeptics, che
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#1181 Post by number47 » Jan 07 2014

@ tkobo

seeing this picture, made me think of you :lol:

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#1182 Post by Sawedoff » Jan 07 2014

I'm in Ohio at the moment and the past two days it has been -10 degrees on average. Ridiculous.

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#1183 Post by SGTscuba » Jan 08 2014

number47 wrote:@ tkobo

seeing this picture, made me think of you :lol:
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I loled at this. I wonder if it has anything to do with the Suns magnetic field flipping recently?
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#1184 Post by tkobo » Feb 05 2014

read this story and see if you can figure out,what very important information is missing from the story....
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/06/world ... world&_r=0

CNN actually went to the extreme of removing comments that mentioned the missing information in 2 of their stories,but got hammered for it and gave up.

As for irony,its far more more than simple irony.Its a case of loons being loons.And it happens regularly .
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/03/18 ... d-weather/

and though you will probably be hard pressed to find stories about it,look into a ship named the "endless sea" and what it was doing in 2012 ,and what its doing now...

Sadly, there is no fix for crazy.And even sadder, we keep saving these loons,and allowing them to do it all over again.
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#1185 Post by tkobo » Mar 04 2014

*2nd coldest winter in the US in 35 years.blamed on agw :lol:

*Southern Hemisphere Sea Ice Area minimum 2nd highest minimum in recorded history.Something like 60% increase over the last few years.

*Obamas "scientific adviser" loses another, as yet again there was no "ice free winter" ....

*Greenpeace founder has this to say...
'It is a powerful convergence of interests among a very large number of elites, including politicians who want to make it seem as though they're saving the world, environmentalists who want to raise money and get control over very large issues like our entire energy policy, media, for sensationalism, Universities and professors for grants. You can't hardly get a science grant these days without saying it has something to do with climate change.'

'People need to study the long history of the Earth. These true believers in climate change are only looking at the last 100 years. That is a blink in nature's eye. We've had billions of years of climate history in this world, and if you look at just the half billion of them, the most recent half billion, you will see that CO2 is lower now than it has been through most of the history of life on Earth, and so is the temperature.'

If pretty much one of the founders of the eco movement says your full eco-crap,you likely are.
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