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:lol: My mistake.
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The Celtic river will change its course
No longer will include the city of Agrippina:
All transmuted except the old language
Saturn, Leo, Mars, Cancer in rapine.

The Celtic river is the Rhine, which will change its course. The astrological configuration of line 4 will occur in 2006, at which time Europe will be in chaos.

The strange nation will divide spoils,
Saturn in Mars his aspect furious:
Horrible slaughter of Tuscans and Latins,
Greeks, who will desire to strike.

This quatrain repeats the schedule of C.4:67. "The strange nation" (the new Moslem empire) will pillage and slaughter the Italians and Greeks, who will continue to resist the invaders. The French too will be attacked by the Moslems. Nostradamus repeatedly warned the French navy not to overextend itself in the Mediterranean Sea, but the advice will be ignored:

If France you pass beyond the Ligurian Sea,
You will see yourself in the isles and seas enclosed:
Mahomet contrary, more so the Adriatic Sea:
Of horses and asses you will gnaw the bones.

Gallic fleet, do not approach Corsica,
Less Sardinia, you will repent of it:
Every single one will die frustrated of the end of the cape:
You will swim in blood: captive you will not believe me.

The great Satyr and Tiger of Hyrcania
Gift presented to those of the Ocean:
A chief of the fleet will come from Carmania
Who will take land at Tyrren Phocaean

In this quatrain, a Moslem naval commander who hails from Hyrcania (now part of Iran) will attack Marseilles ("Tyrren Phocaean"). These quatrains may have been fulfilled in 1655, when the French fleet was sunk in the Gulf of Lyon, or in 1940 when the British navy destroyed the French fleet off the coast of Algiers.

Because of Gallic discord and negligence
A passage will be open to Mahomet
Blood soaks the land and sea of Senois
The Phoenician port covered with sails and ships.

"The Phoenician port" is Marseilles, where the Moslems will enter France, which will be weakened by civil disorder and unable to repel the invaders. The Senois (line 3) are the Senons, an ancient Gallic tribe. Venice will will captured

France because of Negligence assailed on five sides,
Tunis, Algiers stirred up by Persians:
Leon, Seville, Barcelona having failed,
For the Venetians there will be no fleet.

The inhabitants of Marseilles completely changed,
Flight and pursuit up to near Lyon,
Narbonne, Toulouse wronged by Bordeaux
Killed and captive nearly a million.

According to the apparent interpretation of these clear visions, the Moslems will penetrate deep into France. Nearly a million persons will be killed or captured as they flee or fight.

Three foists will enter the port of Agde
Carrying the infection, not faith or pestilence:
Passing the bridge they will carry off millions,
And to break the bridge resistance by a third.

Agde is in the southwest France; the Moslems will attack there with biological weapons. Or, an epidemic will break out in the aftermath of the fighting. This and several related quatrains focus on an unidentified bridge as the scene of a great battle in which millions of people will be killed and captured.

Great Po, great evil will be received through Gauls,
Vain terror to the maritime Lion:
Infinite people will pass by sea,
Without escaping a quarter of a million.

The Po is in southern France, where the Moslems will enter the country. "The maritime Lion" is the British navy. Line 4 suggests that a quarter million people will be captured.

From Barcelona by sea a very great army
All Marseilles will tremble with terror:
Isles seized help shut off by sea
Your traitor will swim in earth.

This quatrain is self-explanatory, though the last line is confusing. As the war continues, famine follows

Those in the isles long besieged
Will take vigor and force against their enemies:
Those outside dead overcome by hunger,
They will be put in greater hunger than ever before.

Lightning brightness at Lyons visible,
Shining, Malta is taken, suddenly it will be extinguished:
Sardon, Maurice will treat deceitfully,
Geneva at London to the cock feigned treason.

Here Nostradamus seems to be predicting that Lyon and Malta will be attacked with nuclear weapons. Line 4 suggests a fake betrayal of the French, perhaps as a strategic deception. Geneva at London indicates that the Swiss government and the (United Nations) will be in exile there.

Burning torch in heaven at night will be seen
Near the end and source of the Rhine:
Famine, steel, the relief provided late,
The Persian turns to invade Macedonia

The "burning torch in heaven" might be a comet, or a nuclear missile. It a missile attack is intended here, Nostradamus may be warning us that the targets will be the source and mouth of the Rhone River, which originates at the foot of Furka Pass and runs 505 miles to the Mediterranean Sea west of Marseilles. The Rhine River begins within 100 yards of the Rhone, and runs 820 miles to the North Sea. The Danube River begins only 15 miles away from the Rhine and Rhone, and it flows 1776 miles to the Black Sea. Famine will devour the people as the delivery of relief supplies is delayed. the Iranians (Persia) will invade Greece (Macedonia), according to line 4, which reiterates several other quatrains. The Moslem invasion will include Switzerland, whose neutrality will not be respected.

Migrate, migrate from Geneva every one,
Saturn from gold to iron will change,
The contrary RAYPOZ will exterminate all,
Before the advent the sky will show signs.

The inhabitants of Geneva will be wise to flee when the economy (Saturn) turns from banking (gold) to war (iron) against "RAYPOZ". This is Nostradamus' transposed spelling for Zopyra, who delivered Babylon into the hands of Darius. Another possible meaning suggest that a positive ray (ion beam) weapon will be used. The event will be portended by celestial omens. Germany also will be visited by the Moslem Jihad:

The holy empire will come to Germany,
Ishmaelite will find open places:
Asses will want also Carmania,
Supporters of earth all covered.

The holy empire" is that of the Moslem religion. The Ishmaelites are the Arabs, who claim descendance from Ishmael, son of Abraham. According to the apparent meaning of line 4, the defenders will be slaughtered. The Moslem invaders (the "great Camel") will penetrate Austria and Germany. They will be defeated by the French ("the Cock") near the Alps:

In the Danube and the Rhine will come to drink
The great Camel, not repenting it:
The Rhone to tremble, much stronger than the Loire
And near the Alps the Cock will ruin him.

Entered amidst the fields beside the Rhone
Where the crusaders will be almost united,
Mars and Venus met in Pisces,
And a great number punished by flood.

The European Christians ("the crusaders") will gather their armies near the Rhone River, which will flood and drown many people. The astrological configuration of line 3 passed without incident in February 1996.

Between Campania, Siena, Florence, Tuscany
Six months nine days without a drop of rain:
The strange tongue in the Dalmatian land;
It will overrun, devastating the entire land.

A drought will occur in the area covered by the cities listed in line 1. The Moslem invades ("the strange tongue") will devastate the land.

Pau, Verona, Vicenza, Saragossa
From distant swords wet with blood:
Very great plague will come with the great pod,
Relief near, and the remedies very far.

The cities listed in line 1 are in southwest France, Spain and northern Italy. Line 3 seems to describe biological warfare delivered by missile. Paris will be destroyed:

The great city will be thoroughly desolated
Of the inhabitants a single one will not remain:
Wall, sex, temple and virgin violated,
By iron, fire, pestilence, cannon people will die.

In Avignon the chief of the whole empire
Will make a stop on the way to desolated Paris:
Tricast will hold the anger of Hannibal:
Lyon will be poorly consoled for the change.

The Moslem advance will be halted at "Tricast", which might be the French city of Troyes, or St. Paul-Trois-Chateaux. Nostradamus wrote several quatrains that prophesy great tribulations for the British people, who will rally against the Moslems:

Towards Aquitane by the British isles
By these themselves great incursions
Rain, frosts will make the soil uneven,
Port Selyn will make mighty invasions.

Aquitane is a large province in southwest France, where the British, et al, will land and attack the Moslems. In line 3, "Selyn" (from the Greek selene, moon) symbolizes the Moslem crescent moon logo. Or, it may indicate an attack on Genoa, Italy.

The trembling of land at Mortara
Cassiterides St. George half sunk to the bottom
Drowsy peace the war will awaken
In the temple at Easter abysses ripped open.

Mortara (in northern Italy near Milan) will be struck by an earthquake at Easter. England is Cassiterides, the Tin Islands; St. George is the patron saint of England. The island will half-sink in a geological catastrophe.

The great Britain comprised England
Will come by waters so high to be inundated
The new league of Ausonia will make war
That against them they will come to band.

Ausonia (near Naples) will become a center of resistance against the Moslems. The sinking of England (or the flooding of East Anglia at least) may be caused by a great earthquake, possibly caused by the impact of a comet:

The great round mountain of seven stades
After peace, war, famine, flood
It will roll far, sinking great countries
Even the ancient ones, and of great foundation.

A stade is a measure varying from about 607 to 739 feet; seven stades equals about 4250-5150 feet. A conservative interpretation of line 1 suggests that Mt. Vesuvius, which is about that high, will erupt with extreme violence. However, it is just as likely that this is a warning that a comet will strike Earth. And this be the only time i refer to something religous. So i'm sorry if it offends anyone. Several other prophets also predicted a cometary impact (i.e., Revelation 8: 8-11.) And that is all for today. More to come. I admit this is a good story.
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Thank god for the EU because that will never hapen at this rate and i might belive nostradomus if he wasent a hobo. :lol:
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:lol: Who said the EU will last. U have to remember not every alliance in the world has lasted. The thing about muslims is if the whole religious sect was organized into one cause (like during the crusades) then the muslims could take over Europe. But i have more on world war 3. I even know who suppose to win.
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I just read something that makes sense to me. What if the war is not an actual war in the beginning but a converting of Europe's ppl to the muslim faith. Then when there is more muslims than any other religion in Europe the muslims could take over with ease. What i read said that by 2055 half all babies born would be in families of muslim faith. Mainly because Islam is the fastest growing religion.
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Im sorry but there is know way in HELL islam will EVER suceed in doing that just say that to the radical catholics of the world and just look at Nigeria.
Also its soon to be the slowest growing religion thanks to the radical sucide bombers and dont forget isreal they are to busy tryin to kill it to focus on europe.
Then dont forget the So called "Great Jihad" that went to spain then to france only to get themselves killed by the forces of Emperor Charlemagne.
besides just look at what happend at the battle of Tours
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tours
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Well true. But sadly the real truth is Islam will keep growing even with suicide bombers and stern opposition from other religions. :lol: That's y i don't like to refer to anything religious because it might cause some kind of hatred or a flame war. Still reading what i mentioned earlier. It gets eeire but is making alot of sense to me now. But the only thing about what i'm reading it may never happen anytime soon then again the future is never set in stone. I know however I have possibilty found what i been searching for. It has taken me over 6 years to find. :lol: Long search but its worth it.
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well, all i can say is that it is a really interesting post. I have been interested to find out what else you are going to write, so keep going as i'm always interested in these sorts of things. Nostradamus was an enigma and anything written by or about him is interesting.
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To me nostradomus predictions are like ...two daemons battle over a claim to a world by holding a contest over who can defecate the most violently...
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:lol: Strange depict of nostradomus's predictions. But anyways I post some more later today if something else doesn't come. The reason I haven't finished World war 3 yet. Things kept coming up.
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come on
Bergs, still waiting for that last chapter of WWIII........ :lol:
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:lol: sorry been busy and been going on vacations. Just got back today. And of course trying to download a 33.8mb update with a crappy connection. But I get back to it. All I have to do is cut in paste now.
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At the place where Jason had his ship built,
There will be a flood so great and so sudden
That one will have no place or land to fall upon,
The waves to mount Olympian Fesulan.

Jason is the mythological character of Golden Fleece fame; Greece is indicated here. "Fesulan" is one of Nostradamus' many unsolved linguistic barbarisms, but probably derives from Fesulae (now Fiesole) in central Italy, which certainly would suffer also if such an enormous catastrophe were to befall Greece.

Many other European prophets before and after Nostradamus made predictions of a "Grand Monarch", a new emperor who will arise to lead Christian Europe to victory over the Moslems. Nostradamus refers to him many times:

Like a griffin will come the king of Europe,
Accompanied by those of Aquilon:
Of reds and whites he will conduct a great troop
And they will go against the king of Babylon.

The aimless army of Europe will depart
Collecting itself near the submerged isle:
The weak fleet will bend the phalanx
At the navel of the world a greater voice substituted

The retreating armies of the European allies will regroup in what is left of England ("the submerged isle"). Their fleet will deal a crippling blow to the Moslem navy. "The navel of the world" probably indicates the Kaaba at Mecca, the center of the world according to the Muslims. Other possibilities include Iraq-Iran, Israel, Egypt, Rome, or even Delphi, Greece. "Another voice substituted" may be that of a new leader, or a prophet.

Naples, Palermo, Culy, Syracuse,
New tyrants, celestial lightning fire
Force from London, Ghent, Brusselles, and Susa,
Great hecatombs, triumph to make feasts.

Allied European forces will defeat the Moslems at the places listed in lines 1 and 3. The "celestial lightning fire" of line 2 may be that of nuclear weapons used by or against the Moslems.

After the victory of the Lion over the Lion
Upon the mountain of Jura Hecatomb,
Deluge and browns seventh million
Lyon, Ulm at Mansol dead and hecatomb.

The Moslems will be defeated in a battle in the Jura Mountains of Franche-Comte. It will be a great slaughter of the "browns" (African Moslems); a seventh million" is approximately 120,000. Line 4 is obscure, but Lyons certainly is in France, and Ulm is in Germany. "Mansol" is believed to be St. Paul-de-Mausol near St.-Remy, Nostradamus' birthplace.

Very near Auch, Lectoure, and Mirand
Great fire from heaven in three nights will fall
A very stupendous event will occur:
Very soon after the earth will tremble.

Auch, Lectoure and Mirand are neighboring towns in the department of Gers in southwest France. Apparently there will be three nights (and days?) of bombing. The "very stupendous event" is not specified, but it will be followed by an earthquake.

The terrible war that is being prepared in the west
The ensuing year will come the pestilence
So very horrible that young, old, nor beast
Blood, fire, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter in France.

Biological warfare will ravage humans and animals. The conjunction of Mercury, Mars and Jupiter last occurred in March 1998 without notable incident. The famous quatrain of "the great king of terror", scheduled to appear in 1999, also failed to manifest. But "the great king of terror' might have been bin Laden.

The year 1999, seven months
From heaven comes a great king of terror
To resurrect the great king of the Angolmois
Before that Mars reigns for happiness.

The resuscitation of "the great king of Angolmois" may be a reference to the Angoumois (an early Gallic people who were conquered by the Goths) or the noble French family of Angouleme and the House of Orleans, which produced Charles V, Francis I, and the Valois kings. It seems that the Grand Monarch, if he is indicated here, will be French. Job 17:14 calls Death the King of Terrors, and death is the last enemy. The year 1999 passed without any such incident, but the event may yet occur on another schedule (September 1, 2001?).

Of Trojan blood will be born a Germanic heart
Who will rise to a very high power:
He will drive out the foreign Arabic people
Returning the Church to its pre-eminence.

"Trojan blood" refers to the royal blood of France, which according to legend descends from Francus, son of King Priam of Troy. The king will rout the Moslems and restore the Catholic Church.

Mars and the sceptre will be found conjoined
Under Cancer calamitious war:
Shortly afterward a new king will be anointed
Who for a long time will pacify the earth.

The sceptre" is Jupiter, which will conjoin Mars in Cancer in July 2002. The new king presumably will be the anticipated Grand Monarch.

In the grassy fields of Allein and of Verneques
Of the Lubern Mountains near the Durance,
Camps of two sides in conflict so bitter
Mesopotamia will falter in France.

Allein and Verneques are villages northeast of Salon, Nostradamus' hometown. The Luberon mountains are on the north side of the Durance River. The Moslems will be defeated there. The Moslem commander will be captured and brought before the Grand Monarch, and the Moslem army will be annihilated.

The great one of the foreign land led captive,
Chained in gold to king CHYREN offered:
He who in Ausonia, Milan will lose the war,
And all his army put to fire and sword.

With great fury the Roman Belgian King
With want to vex the barbarian with his phalanx:
Fury gnashing, he will chase the African people
From Pannonois to the Pillars of Hercules.

The Grand Monarch ("the Roman Belgian King") will rout the invaders. Pannonois is Hungary; the Pillars of Hercules are the Straits of Gibraltar. His company will enter Spain and cross the Straits of Gibraltar into Africa in pursuit of the retreating Moslems ("the crescent" and "those of Friday", the Mohammedan day of rest):

To the Spains will come a very powerful king
By land and sea subjugating the South:
This evil will cause, lowering again the crescent,
Clipping the wings of those of Friday.

From Barcelona, from Genoa and Venice
From Sicily pestilence Monaco joined:
They will take their aim against the Barbarian fleet,
Barbarian driven well back as far as Tunis.

Ogmios will approach great Byzantium
The Barbaric League will be chased
Of the two laws the heathen one will retreat,
Barbarian and Frank in perpetual strife.

The Moslems will retreat into Africa and the Middle East. Ogmios (the Celtic mythic equivalent of Hercules), the commander of the European army, will chase the fleeing Moslems ("The Barbaric league" and "heathen one") all the way to Turkey. The Europeans will be counter-attacked on the beach.

On the point of landing the Crusader army
Will be ambushed by the Ishmaelites,
On all sides struck by the ship "Impetuosity"
Promptly assailed by ten elite galleys.

On the fields of Media, of Arabia, and of Armenia
Two great armies will assemble three times:
Near the bank of Araxes the host,
Of great Suleiman will fall in the land.

The Araxes River is in Armenia, east of the Black Sea. Media is southeast of Armenia. The war will end there with the total defeat of the remaining Moslem army.

The false trumpet concealing madness
Will bear Byzantium a change of laws:
From Egypt will go forth one who wants the withdrawal of
Edicts debasing the quality of coins.

Line 1 is an apt description of infrasound weapons or psychoacoustic projectors, which disrupt the hearing and concentration of the enemy. The Christian army will reach the Euphrates River.

The great band and sect of crusaders
Will be arrayed in Mesopotamia:
Light company of the nearby river,
That such law will hold for an enemy.

The beard frizzled and black through skill
Will subjugate the cruel and proud people:
The great Chyren will remove from far away
All those captured by the banner of Selin.

In this and several other quatrains, Nostradamus described the Moslem commander as having a black, frizzled beard. Chyren (Henry, the European commander) will liberate the captives held by the Moslems ("Selin").

Nostradamus refers to the Antichrist as such only a few times in his prophecies. He distinguishes three antichrists. Napoleon and Hitler probably were the first and second. The Moslem leader of the jihad will be the third.

The Antichrist three very soon extinguished,
Seven and twenty years of blood his war will last:
The heretics dead, captives exiles,
Blood human body water redden to hail on land.

This too shall pass, with worse to come according to Nostradamus and many other prophets (the invasion of Europe and the MidEast by Russia and China, etc.). But that is another chapter in the history of the future. And the future is never set in stone.

And that's the end of Nostrdamus' World War 3 predictions. I may find other predictions to post on here. Until then enjoy reading the "last chapters".
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bergsjaeger YOU FORGOT ONE

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C10Q74
The year of the great seventh number accomplished,
It will appear at the time of the games of slaughter:
Not far from the great millennial age,
When the buried will go out from their tombs.

The Great Seventh is the 7 Billion Population of the Earth in 2012

The buried coming out of their tombs is the 2nd Coming of Christ.

Therefore , the 2nd coming and Armageddon should happen
shortly after 2012 AD.
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OMEGA7 wrote:Therefore , the 2nd coming and Armageddon should happen shortly after 2012 AD.
Oh how delightful... :roll:
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