Xeroman:
Wow, my opinion of your "stance" contiues to ,umm, said nicely, "change".
You continue to try and place things you THINK I imply and contiue to ignore what i actaully say.
I am becoming more and more convinced you do this without knowing it becuase you have no other way to support your irrational viewpoints and your biases force you to try.
You continue to make blanket statements that ARE clearly biased to the point of hatred against the US offering them as fact but giving NO evidence to back up your irrational claims.
You spout more inaccuracies in this tread than some politicains do in a week.
It must be a simple little world for you. The US is evil. They are corrupt and can and will do nothing good.
So even though I am now firmly convinced your biase agaisnt the US and Isreal rules your rationale more than fact, i will yet again set out to correct you on those things you did not concede yet.
1) No thanks needed.You needed correcting, Im just glad you also saw it in this case.
2)Sorry, but you continue to be wrong on this.
definitions of research:
a:To study (something) thoroughly so as to present in a detailed, accurate manner:
b:Scholarly or scientific investigation or inquiry.
c:Close, careful study
You'll notice , I hope, some simple words in the definitions.
"Accurate" "Scientific" "cafeful"
In case your still somehow unsure,those words mean that the person doing the action (research) is NOT only choosing the things that support his cause.
And since you mention semantics, perhaps you should do some research on the man credited with the creation of western sematics,a polish gentleman by the name of Alfred Korzybski(sp).
One thing in particular he said will hold severe importance to your misinterpretation of the word.
"The word is NOT the thing". Once you understand what he means by this, you "should" be able to get past your problem with definiations.
3)please try to ignore any strange impressions you get, and focus soley on what i said.It will prevent yuo from being so wrong so often in this thread.
First off, simply becuase some people consider someone to be a scholar, does NOT mean everyone does.
Next,TIME is not the measure of a scholar .Knowledge AND accuracy are.
Any man may possess knowledge and accuracy,though as your claims and statements show in this thread of yourself,any man may also let his biases prevent him from such.
4)your welcome again.May i somehow manage to correct the rest of your irrational stances.
Again , as i state in an above post and in this post itself already . PLEASE dont let the strange impressions OR personally concieved "tones" interfer with what is actaulty said.
Now for the first part of this lovely little number.
Your welcome for the "clarification".You obviously needed it.The reason being you needed it, was of course as you yourself admit.You "saw" a tone and ignored the words themselves.
Part two of thise lovely little number.
THE INSTANT they cause delay of any sort in any help arriving to those who need it they become partly responsible for what ever occurs in that time.
Part three of this lovely little number.
I dont represent any such thing.Ill let Nick speak for himself instead of putting words in his mouth or intentions in his heart like you have done many times in this thread.
The very stance that i say multiple times in this thread that war IS NOT always the answer clearly shows I am no extremist.But again, you have NO WAY to show I am by what ive said so YOUR biase forces you to create in your own mind tones,impressions,assuptions,etc.. in an attempt to do so.
I see you continue to ramble on about how the US is a completely self absorbed entity with purely selfish motives.
Its okay,your biases over power your reason and hurt your stance.
The statements alone show your warped frame of mind on this topic and let those who read it catch a glimpse of just where your coming from.
5)Nice to see you agree and understand you were yet again wrong.Its these rare instances that give me hope for you viewpoint becoming less irrational.
6)Again, ignore these "seems" that creep into your mind.Like the self created and induced assuptions,percieved tones,et.. theyonly work to prevent you from actually reading and understanding the ACTUAL words written.
Here you again make the absurd claim that i beleive the world should bow to ANY antion, let alone the US.
but thats your biase controlliing your reason yet again.Even though i clearly state otherwise you are compelled by your biase to believe what you want when you want regardless of the inaccuracy of your beliefs.
Its not hard to see why you have some problems with the definition of "research".
7)Im glad your gald to hear it.It does my heart good to see another example of how you can come to see your statements made were wrong.
8)It wasnt open to interpretation. It was words put down in a clear mannor.That you again choose to give them a meaning of your own choice based on other experiences with other people is yet another example of how your biase affects you judgement.
And yes, you were "bad" in doing so
But again , on a positive note,you did at least see some of what you did wrong.Again hope raises it head.
9)Examples are easy to find.What did the UN do about Bosnia,Somalia,Afganistan,.What is it NOW doing about Sudan,an issue that has been goign on for over a year now.
The answer to all of the above is simple.They did next to nothing.They did NOWHERE near what they should have done and people suffered and died due to thier inaction.
They failed to do so,which i think we both agree on becuase of the structure of the UN.
Have you ever read the UN charters own policy for responsiblity of actions of the security council ?
-- Investigate any situation threatening international peace;
-- Recommend procedures for peaceful resolution of a dispute;
-- Call upon other member nations to completely or partially interrupt economic relations as well as sea, air, postal, and radio communications, or to sever diplomatic relations; and
-- Enforce its decisions militarily, if necessary.
Notice if you will the last responsibility.yet for over ten years they failed to enforce thier decisions about Iraq.
Mass amounts of people die every year at the hand of thier own governments,yet the UN has next to never been the first to send in troops to enforce its decisions in such cases.
The Korea conflict being the one case in which they and did, and they were only able to due so becuase russia walked out INSTEAD of blocking the measure that allowed the UN to use military force in korea.had russia acted intelligently instead of emotionally they would have blocked the measure and yet again the UN would have failed to live up to its very own charter.
Now to any rational person,mass amounts of people being killed by thier own government because of biases on the govenments part,would clearly
call for the full spectrum of responsible actions listed by the UN security councils own charter.Yet it doesnt happen.And as we both have now said a few times,the reason it doesnt happen is because of the structure of the UN itself.
However I, unlike you,dont blame the US for everything wrong with the UN.The imense blame there goes fully to all nations in the UN.To single one of these nations out,and blame them for everythimg is just biase speaking.Its irrational.
10)The "world stage IS NOT a real thing. It is an ever changing amalgram (sp) of opinions more often than not baised on biase instead of fact.
My wording on this explanation could indeed have been more clear.Sorry about that.
As for how the Iraq governement was NOT a direct threat to the US im at a loss for words on how even your biased viewpoint could come to such a conlusion.
Did the Iraqi president HIMSELF not plan an assassination of the first President Bush ??
Did the Iraqi military not start TWO wars, one of which the US had to spend time ,money and lives to stop ??
Did the Iraqi military under orders from its own government NOT shoot at american and coalition aircraft on a regular basis.Aircraft whos very reason for being there was to prevent the Iraqi government from killing yet even MORE of its own citizens ??
Any rational person could not help but see threat in ALL three of those situations.The only two major other reasons likely for NOT seeing this would be biase and mental blindness.
Also just why wasnt the UN itself protecting Iraqs people from its own government ?The answer is of course what even we two manage to agree on, the UN structure is a joke.
Lastly in what warped mind can the Nazi invasion and conquest of other nations,be the same as the invasion of Iraq by America and allies so that IRAQ COULD SET UP ITS OWN GOVERMENT ?
Are you trying to claim that the Nazi's allowed people to pick thier own government after conquering them OR allow them self rule??
That would indeed set a new level of the adsurd to your claims thus far.
11 &12)My hostility may rise as the post goes on.I do try very hard to prevent such though.
BUT unfortunately as the jibberish you continue to post as your stance continues to grow in its irrational biase,more and more effort is required to remember you are a person,and not a stance.
To remind myself that all the dislike(bording on hate) you continue to spew,and the illogic and irrational statements you make in support of
your clearly biased and incorrect views, do NOT make it right to treat you badly without dirrect cause.
That despite the serious flaws shown by your biases you are still indeed a person simply making incorrect biase statements that need to be corrected and should be treated as nicely as possile while correcting you.
Hopefully it will rub off on you and you will treatt others the same way and diminish the biase that controls you on certain topics.
1.3 billion dollars is NOTHING compared to what the US has and contiues to pay the UN to waste the worlds time, money and effort.More money will in NO way make the UN more productive.It will simply give them more money that they will waste most of.
Xeroman:"Now the US has the right to spend it’s money any damn way it pleases – but as the biggest boy on the block they carry their share of the weight."
Make up your mind here.Either as you state they have the right or dont.
It says something that you actaully critisie the US (and yes , agaion ONLY the US) for exercising one of its rights.
yet another CLEAR indication of your biase over whelming your reason.You even contradict YOURSELF about a nations very rights because that nation in the US and you dislike it.
On a positive side,it does show that somewhere deep in your biased mind ,there is a part of you still trying to fight its way free and express some reason.On the negative side, like in most cases with your statements in this post, that reasonable side is being ovewerwhemled by your biase.
And please dont continue to whine and then claim the US should pay even more to the UN, an organization that you yourself not only say is structured so as to be ineffective,BUT the US should pay more for something YOU claim they want to fail anyway
??
Thats some insanely twisted logic you put forth there.
"Xeroman:As for me blaming the US for everything? Well, it’s a love hate thing I guess"
Well, with you and some others in the world controlled by thier baises its clearly a hate thing at least.I fail however to see the love side, as til this very last post of yours you have NOT said a single good thing about the US.
And even then you contradict your self.In case your UNSURE ,american culture in firmly rooted in corporations ,capatilism and ecomnomic growth.
you remeber these things right ?
They are the same things you spouted irrational claims of total self absorbance and corruption about.
"Xeroman:Do you truly believe that you are better off than you were 4 years ago???? Honestly??? "
Yes i do.And that comes from an american LIVING in america who owns and participates in a family run business as well as 3 other part time jobs.From an american who deals with hundreds of people a day on some days each week , again on a regular basis.
From an american who has NO political gain from either party winning in the next elections.
From an american who will work for as many as 4 different companies in some weeks, on a regular basis so far this year.
Now being that you are simply a biased person living in another country with,sorry to say,little to NO clue about how things are in america,i will give you some examples.
Minimum wage has gone up,and is higher than it ever has been.
Taxes have gone down.And are currently lower than in the previous 6 years.I know, the house assessments where just done in the area I live in for the first time in over 15 years for some of us.And you know what,15 years later,despite an addition of a deck 5 years ago, my tax assessment went DOWN.
In fact out of the 6 direct nieghbors i have on my street,5 of them had their assessments go down.
There is not only more jobs available now than in the last 4 years,BUT new jobs are appearing at a higher rate also.
Even the biggest problems seen by many,oil,gas and energy prices are lower than in the past.Now Im not currently sure how they stack up over the last 4 year period, BUT I KNOW they are currently lower than they were in some periods of the late 70's.
In fact although they recently spiked due to problems in russia,they only reached a 20 year high.
OR IN OTHER WORDS, at sometime beyond the last 20 years the prices for these resources were higher.
This brings up a serious point you,not being american and living in the US for the last 40+ years would not be aware of without doing unbiased research.Which of course I greatly question your ability to do on such a topic.
That point is,not only am i better off now than 4 years ago. I as an american living in america am better off now than i was 30 years ago.
In fact its this very fact that makes so many people around the world strive to live here.
My cousin from Ireland ,just became a citizen roughly 1 1/2 years ago.He came because despite how well Ireland treats it citizens in many ways, america offered far more than his home (ireland).
You continue to post both of things you have NO clue and of things you wont see correctly due to your biase.
You continue to insult people,attacking them instead of what they say.
You continue to inuslt a nation you dislike, even admit to hating it all basied on your biased view of the world.
You contradict YOURSELF in the attempt to prove your innane statements.
But have no fear. I will continue to show up and correct you.I will continue to try and reach past your biase and ignorance of many of the things you state.
I for the most part am patient and understand you cant help yourself.
I however, being a good american and more important a good PERSON will contiue to fight the losing fight in an attempt to help you.