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Great Britain without Scotland

#1 Post by Hullu Hevonen » Apr 12 2014

If Scotland seceeds from the union, what would the flag looklike of Great Britain? Would the name great Britain even be kept?
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#2 Post by Thumboy » Apr 12 2014

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/ ... 34x316.jpg

This is what the UK flag would be like.....

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#3 Post by SGTscuba » Apr 13 2014

The Scots will probably find out that they will be just as bad off as in the UK. Scottish Politian's haven't done any better than English ones (just see new Labour for example). The only difference will probably be that instead of everything being London centric, it'll be Edinburgh centric. Just have a look at the stupidity of HS2 in the UK at the moment.
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#5 Post by Chesehead » Sep 12 2014

Apparently the Scots are attempting to be nuclear free- this would shut down the only base that the UK has that maintains their nuclear arsenal, which would essentially leave the Brits without a nuclear deterrent unless they spend billions of dollars to rebuild the base somewhere in England. Poor Brits. :-(

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#6 Post by SGTscuba » Sep 13 2014

Chesehead wrote:Apparently the Scots are attempting to be nuclear free- this would shut down the only base that the UK has that maintains their nuclear arsenal, which would essentially leave the Brits without a nuclear deterrent unless they spend billions of dollars to rebuild the base somewhere in England. Poor Brits. :-(
They are planning to move it to Devonport (where nuke subs are based) in the event they cant leave them in Scotland.

Anyway, I feel sorry for the Scots having to make this big decision on the amount of disinformation that has been going around from both sides. It pretty much seems to be one side saying it'll be the end of the world and the other saying it will be eden. (I'm from England btw, and I don't care which way the Scots vote, but I'd hate to have to make that decision based on the info that has been put out by both sides in this [s]shouting match[/s] 'Debate')
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#7 Post by Chesehead » Sep 13 2014

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Chesehead wrote:Apparently the Scots are attempting to be nuclear free- this would shut down the only base that the UK has that maintains their nuclear arsenal, which would essentially leave the Brits without a nuclear deterrent unless they spend billions of dollars to rebuild the base somewhere in England. Poor Brits. :-(
They are planning to move it to Devonport (where nuke subs are based) in the event they cant leave them in Scotland.

Anyway, I feel sorry for the Scots having to make this big decision on the amount of disinformation that has been going around from both sides. It pretty much seems to be one side saying it'll be the end of the world and the other saying it will be eden. (I'm from England btw, and I don't care which way the Scots vote, but I'd hate to have to make that decision based on the info that has been put out by both sides in this [s]shouting match[/s] 'Debate')

Huh, I missed that portion of it. Are they actually going to shell out the billions of dollars to rebuild the infrastructure down there then? From what I've seen, if they do decide to shell out the money, some other portion of the defense budget will probably take the hit.

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#8 Post by SGTscuba » Sep 14 2014

They still haven't fully decided because they are betting on a No vote, but it is one of 2 places they have got marked. I think that an old oil refinery was the other (I think the shutdown Milford Haven or something) as it had the deepwater access needed already and not a lot was around there anymore so plenty of room to build the base. I think Devonport seems most likely as they already have the structure there for the submarines as that is where the attack subs are mainly based. I guess the cost of moving them might be tagged onto the same cost as renewing them as that is going to have to happen soon as our SSBN's will need replacing by 2025ish (we're already part of the missile section replacement project the US has started for its next Gen SSBN's).
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#9 Post by Hullu Hevonen » Sep 14 2014

The thing that I think is sad is the already happening business panic, if there is a yes vote and the separation is smooth, then there shouldn't be any major economic impact for the big companies.
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#10 Post by SGTscuba » Sep 14 2014

Hullu Hevonen wrote:The thing that I think is sad is the already happening business panic, if there is a yes vote and the separation is smooth, then there shouldn't be any major economic impact for the big companies.
Well actually, thanks to recent (I think EU) regulations, all the banks that are based in Scotland, will have to move their legal HQ's to the UK as that is their biggest market. This means that although job's might not be lost, tax will be paid more into the UK than Scotland.
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#11 Post by Hullu Hevonen » Sep 15 2014

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#12 Post by SGTscuba » Sep 15 2014

TBH, its been both ways from what I've seen, even in the live debates, its been Darling basically saying DOOM! and Salmond going "but their scaremongering". Neither side has put forward a good argument IMO.
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#13 Post by The Khan » Sep 15 2014

Without Scotland, I think it will be islamic Caliphate of Al-Londonistan.
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#14 Post by SGTscuba » Sep 16 2014

The Khan wrote:Without Scotland, I think it will be islamic Caliphate of Al-Londonistan.
No, the rest of the UK is likely to get its independence from London and leave the Caliphate to itself.
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#15 Post by GreenGoblin » Sep 24 2014

Rule Britannia!

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