Turkey shells Syria back

[juanezos]

I will do better than that. Here is a link to a Greek news site, that contains a video that shows the monsters that are the "rebels".

Please due to the graphic nature of the video in this site, I would recommend only +18 to watch it.

http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/item/% ... E%B5%CF%82

[Balthagor]

Actually, that's not very useful. There are no credentials on that site to show if it can be trusted and I wasn't questioning if Assad opponents where "doing bad things" it is the fact that Assad is just as bad that I have not seen disproved.

[juanezos]

I understand that a site that is considered reputable and independent in Greece, may not be considered as such. So please find "reputable" international sites both US and UK.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-14/o ... of/4196550

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... s/1678201/

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/world ... .html?_r=0

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... a-war.html

http://news.yahoo.com/officials-us-blac ... itics.html

[Balthagor]

...I wasn't questioning if Assad opponents where "doing bad things" it is the fact that Assad is just as bad that I have not seen disproved.

[juanezos]

...I wasn't questioning if Assad opponents where "doing bad things" it is the fact that Assad is just as bad that I have not seen disproved.

Have you seen that he is can you quote any reputable non influenced articles that say he has committed regularly atrocities against his own people?

Guilty unless proven innocent or innocent until proven guilty?

[PyongYang]

We should flatten the middle east and turn it into a beach resort.

[number47]

We should flatten the middle east and turn it into a beach resort.

Why stop at Middle East? Why not just push the little red button and finish it all?

[Balthagor]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeas ... 18478.html

That was the first hit on a google search for "Assad Crimes". I've seen plenty others but I'm not going to dig any more than that, I'm not here to convince. You joined the thread challenging what ppl said, so I would expect you as the challenger to bring forward some citations to disprove where the conversation is at now. You seem to be the one interested in changing people's minds. Ideally (but I haven't looked back to confirm) somewhere near the beginning of this conversation was an article supporting the position being voiced. I'm not looking to convince, I'm trying to facilitate conversation and encourage them to be of a higher standard. I do also voice my opinion on some points but that's just following the conversation.

[Niko465]

...so I stoped at ''They're all +/- terrorists''.

... Assad is not a despotic dictator.

You contradict yourself. You also give your opinion without any supporting evidence, a very weak case.

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By they all terrorists I means Syrian, lybian, plestinian, chechnyian rebels, not Assad's gov.
I would not talk about this just for the pleasure of bullshitting you, I talk about this because it directly concern people I know that live in Syria. Evidence.. Just watch the news(Not only American or Russians news, both). For the rebels level of terrorism, just use wikipedia it will detail you the terrorist action of every of these groups.

Strange, I noticed that in English wikipedia, Al-Caida is not in the belligerent's list, but in French and Russian it is.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerre_civile_syrienne

Well when you are about to get overtrown by arab and islamist ultranationalist, doing war crimes is the last of your concern. Find me something horrendous Assad conmmitted monthly on it's citizens before the war. Being able to leave the country and a internet connection is a good evidence for me that Assad's reing is not so bad.

[juanezos]

Also Balthagor you are posting links from Al Jazeera which a Royal Qatar family owned.

Also Qatar is supplying the "rebels"(quotation marks because the majority are foreign mercenaries), weapons and funds.

Therefore how unbiased can you call them?

[Balthagor]

[walks away]...

[Balthagor]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/0 ... lp00000008

[PyongYang]

Assad's a PSYCHO. He'll definitely use them.

[Balthagor]

More on Syria

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012 ... ebels.html

[Niko465]

Let's hope it will not become necessary to use them.
If only UN would not have cutted all of Syria's ressource, now they may have to use chemical.