Wall Street Protests in NY and across the US

[LiKaapstad]

I'm sitting back and watching-

No one can change a man's/woman's opinion. Nothing. Only he/she can change there mind. What truth does it do to throw opinions around like loose leafs in fall season from a maple tree? Only that one's opinion will eventually hit the ground like every other dying leaf.

[CrazyIvan]

Well if they're against this:

They have my support.

[warhead]

pffttt...
Nothings falling, and these protests arent about greed or the rich.Its just the left youth idiot fringe feeling left out of world events,and choosing to do what they do normally,but in a group this time, to make themselves feel better,just as some talking heads asked them to.

Unemployed,drug using ,socialist slackers,who rallied at the call of a socialist group out of canada .Being the burden on society they are on a daily basis because they think its "cool" to not be a productive member of society,this time under a loose organization, with the pretense of some "noble cause" they were fed by the talking heads that they choose to have "think" for them.
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There is no doubt that there are some people there just to be there. The overall majority of America supports these protests. Attack them all you want, the GOP house reps have proven that their agenda is nothing other then keeping status quo.

Why have republicans gone so far right? I registered republican to vote, but there is no way in hell I will support a party like this. Cain's 9/9/9 tax. Are you kidding me? What the hell do people want? You want somebody like Cain at a time like this? He has no clue on foreign policy. Obama has actually done a pretty good job taking care of terrorists. My only beef with him was the constant apologizing for America BS. We have no reason to apologize to anybody.

I cannot believe the lunacy in the republican debates. Basically all of them except romney, who is a good choice, want to strip the federal government except the military. So a 9 % flat tax while disbanding the EPA. There is no doubt that there are too many regulations, but these people are insane. How is Cain beating Romney in polls?

I'm calling BS on that. The majority of Americans don't support the protests. The protests demands are basically to bring communism to America. Its the result of pure jelousy and the way they were raised. If you work a little bit, and try for things, instead of going off to college to smoke weed and get a degree in communications, Poly Sci, or sociology, your going to eventually find a job.

Its because the people are fed up with weak moderates. The republicans ran one in 08 and got smashed. They want to do the same this year, and I'll laugh when they get smashed again if they run Romney. Obama in 08 had about as much forighn policy experince as Cain does not, so that point is pretty mute. I'll give you that Obama has done relativly well in that department, but thats about the only thing he has managed to not screw up.

Romney is the only one that beats Obama in a head to head poll as of now. You have to be somewhat moderate to win a national election. Cain's 9-9-9 is a joke. Think of states with sales tax. People want to pay a 18% sales tax on items there?

As for the people in the protests, reading the news, more people support them than the tea party. What has this house GOP done? Their refusal to raise the debt limit until the last minute now puts our national defense at risk. THIS MONEY WAS ALREADY SPENT. Every single person who voted against increasing the debt limit should be voted out of congress. Don't care what party any of them are in. Go watch videos of Bachmann's view on the debt limit. Completely clueless to what would happen to the global economy.

Run Bachmann out their on a national debate. Would be great comedy. Mitt Romney is the only one in the debates that I think comes across as someone who could be a good president. Throwing an extreme conservative out there would be like the dems throwing nancy pelosi at the presidency. How do you think that would go for her?

[warhead]

I'll give you that Obama has done relativly well in that department, but thats about the only thing he has managed to not screw up.

People honestly think that the president has way too much influence on everything in this country. Has Obama made a lot of mistakes? Yes. If a perfect president was in, would the global economy be soaring right now? I don't think so.

One thing I can't stand is our reluctance to use our own oil reserves in this country. I blame Obama and the democrats for that. The thought that he alone is why the unemployment is at 9% is completely ridiculous.

You know what has killed all of our jobs? "American" companies off shoring all of our jobs due to the great trade agreements we have. These companies are for profit, so of course you would rather have someone in china doing the same job for 1/100th of the salary of an american.

Look at Apple. 88 billion in cash reserves and all of their iphone manufacturing is in China. What a joke.

[Chesehead]

http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed- ... st-moveme/

[warhead]

Did you read the first two lines?

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America will always be a capitalist nation, and nothing anyone can do will change that. Having income inequalities rise and unemployment hovering around 10%. while corporates are making huge profits will cause negative reactions.

Are there a a group of people there that would like socialism/communism? Probably. They are in the minority. The vast majority of people in this country, and people like me, don't want European socialism or anything more extreme like that. We also don't want BAD capatalism. Income inequality is way too high right now. The off shoring of jobs has killed the job market in this country. Not Obama.

Both parties are responsible for this crap. Sick of both parties thinking they are always right.

[LiKaapstad]

Did you read the first two lines?

Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands.
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America will always be a capitalist nation, and nothing anyone can do will change that. Having income inequalities rise and unemployment hovering around 10%. while corporates are making huge profits will cause negative reactions.

Are there a a group of people there that would like socialism/communism? Probably. They are in the minority. The vast majority of people in this country, and people like me, don't want European socialism or anything more extreme like that. We also don't want BAD capatalism. Income inequality is way too high right now. The off shoring of jobs has killed the job market in this country. Not Obama.

Both parties are responsible for this crap. Sick of both parties thinking they are always right.

Omg, I have finaly (for THE FIRST TIME) found someone who can adequatley think on this site.

[tkobo]

The organization that created this is called Adbusters,they are an anti-capitalist org out of canada.They are a mix of socialist and anarchist.They are very european in the mindset,right down to advocating violent protest.This is not the first time theyve tried to run these protests,its just the closest they come to actually gathering a decent amount of people to back them.

Their goal is now, and always has been,the destruction of the capitalist system in america.If you havent been diligent enough to research even that little tidbit,your in over your head in this topic.

The OWS groups in america do NOT represent anywhere near the majority of americans.The 99% line is utter crap.The vast majority of americans understand that the government caused the current financial mess.If the government hadnt pressured banks and lenders into handing out mortgages to people who didnt qualify for them,there would NOT have been the massive default rate that occured.All one has to do is look at the government run lending groups,like mae and mac and you'll see.There were NO greedy CEOs running mac or mae,it was the government running it as it always has.And yet they and the government run lending orgs are among those with the highest percentage of defaults.

Mae and mac were both created to among other things,help grow the secondary mortgage market.And their involvement in doing so was crucial in the current crisis occurring.This secondary market IS the resale of bundles of mortgages to "help lower risk to the lender" .It was the reason the bad mortgages were "bundled" as they were and spread thru so many institutions.The problem wasnt that they were,the problem was that there were simply far too many of them.And so instead of "lowering the risk",the system increased the risk.

Basically the floodways (secondary markets) meant to move the water (bad mortgages)to spread it out and prevent flooding at a given location, were faced with so much water (bad mortgages) that instead of preventing the flooding (crisis),they were overwhelmed and acted to make it worse by helping spread it.This resulted in flooding "everywhere" they touched,and didnt even manage to protect the original location.

There are circa 300 million people in the US.The OWS groups doesnt even tally up to 1 mil people.They cant even muster 1/3 of a % in their cause.

They hide behind the fact that most americans dislike the bailouts,and claim they are part of that ,and so represent 99%.But its smoke and mirrors.BECAUSE while the vast majority of americans are wise enough to be against the bailouts, they (the vast majority of americans)do NOT want to end capitalism,which is the goal of the organizers of the OWS groups.Any reasonable person can see,that as they are striving for this ridiculous goal of ending capitalism, and the vast majority of americans dont want that,they simply do NOT represent the vast majority of americans.