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Congratulations America.

now you too can have 'fabulous' medics and super-lesbian soldiers!
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Well I could voice my opinion, but by my religion I am to hate the sin not the sinner. So All I say is America is a country that allows freedom in everything.
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The old system was fine. It still allowed gays to be in the military, as long as they weren't flamboyant. I will be in the US military soon enough, and I'd rather serve with a couple of gay guys that didn't make a big deal out of it then a couple of flamboyant panzies.


Besides, were not that desperate for man power at the moment.
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Chesehead wrote:The old system was fine. It still allowed gays to be in the military, as long as they weren't flamboyant. I will be in the US military soon enough, and I'd rather serve with a couple of gay guys that didn't make a big deal out of it then a couple of flamboyant panzies.


Besides, were not that desperate for man power at the moment.
if a raging queen is too much to tolerate, god help you occupying countries filled with fundamentalists who want you and your family blown to pieces.
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Communazi wrote:
Chesehead wrote:The old system was fine. It still allowed gays to be in the military, as long as they weren't flamboyant. I will be in the US military soon enough, and I'd rather serve with a couple of gay guys that didn't make a big deal out of it then a couple of flamboyant panzies.


Besides, were not that desperate for man power at the moment.
if a raging queen is too much to tolerate, god help you occupying countries filled with fundamentalists who want you and your family blown to pieces.
God help the flamboyant homosexuals occupying a country filled with fundamentalists.

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Whats so bad with being gay in the armed forces? Please explain since I don't get it, aren't they humans like us that can function normally in a society? with normal I mean, that they are able to work, earn a living, have sufficiently intelligent(like a normal person), pay taxes, race families etc.. to operate like a normal person in society. And Normal when coming to armed forces, cant a homosexual shoot a gun and be equally good solider as a non-homosexual? so do they not deserve equal treatment etc?

btw bergsjaeger, a local priest here told me that the bible both condemns and allows homosexuality, so basically you can chose whether to accept or not and still follow Christianity, it is only different branches(catholics, orthodox, protestant etc) of christianity that have chosen to accept or not. I haven't read the hole bible(yet) myself.
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Hullu Hevonen wrote:Whats so bad with being gay in the armed forces? Please explain since I don't get it, aren't they humans like us that can function normally in a society? with normal I mean, that they are able to work, earn a living, have sufficiently intelligent(like a normal person), pay taxes, race families etc.. to operate like a normal person in society.
They ARE normal persons.

Light hit the nail. Women and Gay people should be allowed to fight Fundamentalists on a closer scale.There is nothing more screaming "Laser Guided Karma" like a fundamentalist getting blown up by the very people he hates and tries to terrorize. Not ordinary Joes, but a butch lesbian soldier operating a laser guided missile. Or even getting his ass kicked in CQC.

Or a gay man using a long barreled rifle. Hehehe.

Or an amazon feminist blowing up a camp containing insurgents who attended a rajm last week.(stoning a woman)
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Communazi wrote:
Chesehead wrote:The old system was fine. It still allowed gays to be in the military, as long as they weren't flamboyant. I will be in the US military soon enough, and I'd rather serve with a couple of gay guys that didn't make a big deal out of it then a couple of flamboyant panzies.


Besides, were not that desperate for man power at the moment.
if a raging queen is too much to tolerate, god help you occupying countries filled with fundamentalists who want you and your family blown to pieces.
It's becouse those types of things tend to be yet another disraction and in combat, you want to limit distractions. Notice I didn't have a problem with DADT. I have no problem serving with gays as long as they don't make a huge deal about it. I do have problems with flamyboyant ones that make it a center of their attention and look for attention and that hit on you.
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I can tell you know nothing much will change. Open gays won't want to join the defense force although females can now get men to stop hitting on them by saying she is lesbian.
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Sigh, the bible does say homosexually is an abomination(It's not natural.), and a priest could say other wise, but he could be a gay, meaning a hypocrite.

Why are there 2 differnet genders? For procreation. No same sex couple can do that without help, meaning using the opposite sex. It will always be a chose, no one is born that way (they know what gender they are), but it is a mental problem, yes that may mean homosexuals are born with the problem, but they chose to be a gay or lesbian instead of getting help.

As for in the military, I have no problem with them serving, they have rights like everyone else in this country. Like I said I hate the sin not the sinner.
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I agree with u berg i have nothing against gays but its not natural
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Rhyus wrote:I agree with u berg i have nothing against gays but its not natural
The video is entirely english but has turkish subs but whatever.

http://www.youtube.com/user/kontroversi ... -IpE1bKZCM

every species in nature has that genetic phenomena.

www.forthebibletellsmeso.com i think is the resource
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bergsjaeger wrote:Sigh, the bible does say homosexually is an abomination(It's not natural.), and a priest could say other wise, but he could be a gay, meaning a hypocrite.

Why are there 2 differnet genders? For procreation. No same sex couple can do that without help, meaning using the opposite sex. It will always be a chose, no one is born that way (they know what gender they are), but it is a mental problem, yes that may mean homosexuals are born with the problem, but they chose to be a gay or lesbian instead of getting help.

As for in the military, I have no problem with them serving, they have rights like everyone else in this country. Like I said I hate the sin not the sinner.
From what I understood, the bible said later it was ok by saying they should be treated like everyone else and should be accepted. Or that the priest told me. But theres a fierce battle inside the lutheran church here right now wheter the curch should accept gay marrage or not, it has resulted so far in tens of thousands leaving the church and it staying anti-gay.

Well, as for being natural, it's not like gays are castrated, they can have children with the opposite sex. You don't have to have sex with a person to get children either. ok, they cannot have children with each other but they can have biological children like anyone of us humans.
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