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Well, I'm not so sure any country in the world, so far, was in fact a communist country...a bunch of crooked dictatorships thats what they all wereBalthagor wrote:...then the Soviet Union was never communist and neither was any other country in the world.
I suggest you take a little trip to Miami, FL, and ask the questions about Fidel there...Btw, I happend to have a Cuban girfriend when I lived at Venezuela ... She escaped also from there when Chavez came to power.... I've heard first hand stories about the Cuban health care and education.... Do you know that physicians are not allowed to leave Cuba ? and when the go out in "good will" missions they are always under guard to prevent them from deserting....Niko465 wrote:You didn't answered me. They can't eat 3 meals a day? They get arrested for contesting Chavez? There is lot of corruption? If one of these are true, it's not communism.Draken wrote:Lea, did you bothered to read what I posted? And if so, did you understand it?
I am Venezuelan, my family (middle class) is still trapped there...I talked to my mother yesterday and they couldn't find coffee or sugar in the stores... Last week, the missing product was milk...
Crime, is on the raise... In 2011 there where close to 20,000 homicides...
Of all my high school and university friends, close to 20% are still at Venezuela... The rest (including me) left the country...
Chavez, best friends includes Fidel Castro, Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi...
I lost count of how many times he has changed the constitution so he can hold all the power for live... Democracy? Sure:
If you like communism... I'm sure you will like Venezuela..."It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything. " --Joseph Stalin
Since when Castro is bad? Because he freed Cuba from Batista? Or maybe because he humilliated USA. Twice(650 humilliation if we count all the assassination attempt they made against him(648)). Or because he have very good relations with Canada... Because of free health care and education, 99,8 literacy rate.
As I predicted. There is attack to others theses and transfer to another leader (I kept Asad and Ghaddafi) who is "fair man in severe condition and surrounded by enemies, etc." Where was sarcasm? It is an experience and knowledge.Niko465 wrote:You didn't answered me. They can't eat 3 meals a day? They get arrested for contesting Chavez? There is lot of corruption? If one of these are true, it's not communism.
Since when Castro is bad? Because he freed Cuba from Batista? Or maybe because he humilliated USA. Twice(650 humilliation if we count all the assassination attempt they made against him(648)). Or because he have very good relations with Canada... Because of free health care and education, 99,8 literacy rate.
This is a known confusion of concepts. At this point a hold the Zinoviev's view. There is a imaginary communism, in which no money, no currency, no crime, etc (no water, no air, no people, no Earth, no matter, just Marx and Engels). And there was a real communism which was built in USSR in the pure form and some other countries with some impurities.fool wrote:Not such a ridiculous idea. Communism classically was always without currency; it would be a little tricky to have corruption in such a condition. Because that sort of thing was not feasible, the soviet union for example (U.S.S.R.) claimed to be a socialist rather than communist country, led by a communist party.
Russia has a great emigration experience. As I know, after a while the remaining people and emigrants no longer understand each other and cease to be a single society. Even after reunification they may remain the strangers. For foreigners it is much more and from beginning: the repressions downplayed almost always. For example, the famous Frenchman Romain Rolland justified Soviet terror because terror is everywhere ("half-Europe and almost all Asia"). Another Frenchman Louis Aragon received his sight only after the Soviet invasion of Hungary. Everything that happens to you has happened to many other people. If you learn from their experience it may be a little easier for you.Draken wrote:I suggest you take a little trip to Miami, FL, and ask the questions about Fidel there...
It's just some other fools thinking freedom is more important than wellness. Like if the weakers and dumbers were not made to be ruled by stronger and smarter...Draken wrote: I suggest you take a little trip to Miami, FL, and ask the questions about Fidel there...Btw, I happend to have a Cuban girfriend when I lived at Venezuela ... She escaped also from there when Chavez came to power.... I've heard first hand stories about the Cuban health care and education.... Do you know that physicians are not allowed to leave Cuba ? and when the go out in "good will" missions they are always under guard to prevent them from deserting....
3 meals a day? My family does.... some others don't ? arrested? yes... persecuted by the " revolutionarios" ? hell yes.... Corruption? you serious? You cannot do anything important there without paying somebody "under the table"....
But hey, don't believe me! After all, I voluntarily pledged alliance to the Grand Satan and the Evil power that the United States of America is ....
Sorry kid...But I remember why I don't post in this kind of threads.... /unsubscribe ...
To say that those who are "weaker and dumber" are "made to be ruled" is discrimination. I give little credibility to the opinions of people who discriminate against others.Niko465 wrote:...Like if the weakers and dumbers were not made to be ruled by stronger and smarter...
True. It was more of an exageration. Meaning that those who refuse to sacrifice some freedom(Dumbers) to get a universal and collective wellness don't deserve freedom.Balthagor wrote:To say that those who are "weaker and dumber" are "made to be ruled" is discrimination. I give little credibility to the opinions of people who discriminate against others.Niko465 wrote:...Like if the weakers and dumbers were not made to be ruled by stronger and smarter...
I'm going to learn from the wisdom of Draken and discourage intolerance by not debating with those who propagate it. /unsubscribe indeed...
Draken wrote:...but it is not over yet...
nor will it ever be over...SoB wrote:Draken wrote:...but it is not over yet...
It is never over.
Indeed. RIP ChavezHullu Hevonen wrote:R.I.P Chavez, he was one of the most controversial leaders out there and had a genuine support base.
Are you interested in a water front villa? I own one in Mars that I could sell you for cheap...SGTscuba wrote:Indeed. RIP ChavezHullu Hevonen wrote:R.I.P Chavez, he was one of the most controversial leaders out there and had a genuine support base.
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