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Dont think ive seen them go after Anne Frank before.....Its a perfect example of the insanity thats very likely to prevent democracy in egypt
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Yup, the slide continues...more protests,election delayed,more arrests,more violence,more strikes .....

And remember the "hope" for the middle east ?Latest polls show opinion of obama and the US in most middle-east countries are now lower then the lowest years from the bush years.
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Yeah, The Obamunist foreign policy in the region fails because of one tiny misunderstanding. They don't respect "touchy-feelie", metrosexual, passive aggressive type behavior. They respect forceful strength. Heck, they don't even really comprehend the "soft touch", except as a ploy to get close enough to make the back stab. If anyone can prove me wrong I'd be happy to listen.

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Small area in the south of turkey (southeastern province of Diyarbakir ) populated largely by kurds "declares democratic autonomy" from turkey.The statement was issued by the Democratic Society Congress,which is a collection of pro-kurdish politicians,political groups, and activists.

This takes place at almost the same time a clash in a south east of turkey left 13 Turkish soldiers and seven Kurdish terrorists dead.Reports on how the turkish soldiers were killed vary.Officially they were killed by a fire started in the woods by terrorists as they attacked the soldiers,unofficially theres talk of a friendly fire incident involving a turkish aircraft called in to bomb the terrorist force.
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^ The Democratic Society Congress has announced that they are creating their own limited government, flag, and defense force.They say that the limited government has already been functioning in the area for "a number of years".

Turkish authorities have "launched an investigation into the announcement",with the purpose of "prosecuting any violations of law".
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Lightbringer wrote:Yeah, The Obamunist foreign policy in the region fails because of one tiny misunderstanding. They don't respect "touchy-feelie", metrosexual, passive aggressive type behavior. They respect forceful strength. Heck, they don't even really comprehend the "soft touch", except as a ploy to get close enough to make the back stab. If anyone can prove me wrong I'd be happy to listen.

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Yes, that is the reason, why the Palestinians are still launching missile attacks on israeli settlements, just because the israeli are "touchy-feelie", metrosexual and passive aggressive. Yeah, you got me |O
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Arent they ?Its not like theres a shortage of doves and appeasers in the israeli political spectrum.
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Snow Pig wrote:Yes, that is the reason, why the Palestinians are still launching missile attacks on israeli settlements, just because the israeli are "touchy-feelie", metrosexual and passive aggressive. Yeah, you got me
You really like comparing apples and oranges, don't you? Please quote from my post the statement that explains each and every action of Middle Easterners or Muslims to the lack of respect for femininity? You can't. I didn't say it. I listed such a societal trait as part of their psyche, not as a panacea of explanation for every homicidal, genocidal, or just plain barbarically evil action they take. Strangely enough, Israel is not part of the Obama Administration, so relations between Israel and their neighbors doesn't quite fall under the same category as why Obama is thought of as a limp wristed sissy by Muslim Leaders. :wink:

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ok, then the long version. First explain me:
Lightbringer wrote:They don't respect "touchy-feelie", metrosexual, passive aggressive type behavior.
Who is "they"?
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@Snowpig,

"They" could easily be mainstream Muslim, Middle Eastern Society. You know, the spitheads who were dancing in the streets after 9/11. I am sure there are plenty of Middle Easterners who are in touch with their feminine sides and their inner children... they just don't seem to be in charge of anything. So I will specify that I am talking about the leadership of the Muslim nations in the region.
Tkobo wrote:Arent they ?Its not like theres a shortage of doves and appeasers in the israeli political spectrum.

You didn't answer Tkobo. Maybe you don't pay much attention to history and politics in the region, but Israel has spent the last 40 years trying to appease their bloodthirsty savage neighbors by giving them land and increasing sovereignty. Arab Muslims inside of Israel enjoy freedoms and rights that Muslim countries do not grant their own Muslim people (never mind non Muslims). There was no Palestinian country before Israel was formed. It was all part of Jordan. So they can't rightly "give it back".

I put it to you that the Palestinians continue attacking Israel exactly because Israel has never properly punished them for their terror campaign. If any other country on the planet was attacked in the manner that the Israelis are attacked on a regular basis, that country would have annihilated it's enemy and crushed them utterly. If Denmark started firing thousands of missiles into Germany and demanding big chunks of land (all the while preaching the genocidal destruction of the German people), then Germany would have crushed the Danes. I could name every other "big/small" pair of neighbors on the globe and say the same exact thing. The Palestinians have provided enough Causus Belli to have deserved being crushed and slaughtered and smashed into the stone age. However, the Israelis suffer under global anti semitism. Rockets strike their civilian population... and the U.N. issues proclamations denouncing the Israelis. So, like any petulant child who is rewarded for bad behavior instead of being punished, the Palestinians continue the behavior that brings them the rewards.

I don't know your level of intelligence, and how much Jew Hating propaganda you have swallowed during your life. Do you enjoy watching old film footage of Jews being marched into the gas chambers? Or do you just believe the pap that the media feeds you instead of actually thinking? Do you hate the Jews? Think they should be exterminated perhaps? Or just swallow the illogical concept that terrorists and murderers are somehow the "good guys"?

http://blog.camera.org/archives/2005/09 ... _repo.html
Palestinian Arabs living in the Israeli-controlled West Bank and Gaza Strip have fared better in terms of life expectancy, adjusted real income, and educational attainment than many fellow Arabs, according to the United Nations. The U.N.’s 2005 Human Development Report, released to coincide with this month’s opening session of the U.N. General Assembly, ranks the Arabs of what it calls “Occupied Palestinian Territories” at 102 out of 177 countries.
no news coverage of the study’s ranking of Palestinian Arabs under “Israeli occupation” higher than Algerians (103), Syrians (106), Egyptians (119), Moroccans (124) and Yemeni (151). Based on data for 2003 – a period of frequent Israeli counter-terrorism responses to the “al-Aqsa intifada” – the Arabs of the West Bank and Gaza Strip also were not far behind Tunisians (89) and Jordanians (90).
More at the link.

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It just keeps moving in the wrong direction ....

In turkey most of the top military just resigned.And more junior officers were arrested by the gov.These were the primary force slowing turkey's slide into the next iran.

In egypt ,yet more protests,yet more violence,yet more calls for a religious government.

In syria,more protests,more violence,etc..

libya is a complete mess....

etc...
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Not much change in most cases,and almost none of what did was good.

Of key to note,syrian resistance has now turned to organized violence,a group calling itself the " Free Syrian Army",said to be made up in no small part of defectors from the gov forces is now staging and claiming attacks on government forces. The Free Syrian Army is claiming 10k members...
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Lightbringer wrote:Yeah, The Obamunist foreign policy in the region fails because of one tiny misunderstanding. They don't respect "touchy-feelie", metrosexual, passive aggressive type behavior. They respect forceful strength. Heck, they don't even really comprehend the "soft touch", except as a ploy to get close enough to make the back stab. If anyone can prove me wrong I'd be happy to listen.

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only positive change is the ongoing sagas----- one less despotic ruler.Anyone following events knows who.
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turkey is now sheltering a segment of the "Free Syrian Army" in turkey, and letting it raid across its border into syria.The main group being referred to as the "officers camp" consists of about 70 or so defectors from the syrian army.Of the "10,000" members they claim, still no sign.
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