Wikileaks: There is no good side.

[Lea]

Would you be happy if every word you said about anyone was instantly repeated to them?

At the same time the governments are draw closer to peoples. It is should be done sometimes.

[The Khan]

Would you be happy if every word you said about anyone was instantly repeated to them?

At the same time the governments are draw closer to peoples. It is should be done sometimes.

I agree. Occasional leak might make the corrupt jump, as it happened in Turkey. Besides the Dems are also disturbed by it, you should support it Light

The leaks arent just made of "talking behind back", I always wondered why the AKP in Turkey had great success despite being the most corrupt and nepotistic(?) clique Turkey has ever seen, and when they originated, etc...

It wasn't the best thing to come out, but it had to.

[Cutlass]

At the same time the governments are draw closer to peoples. It is should be done sometimes.

As far as I am concerned about things here in America, I would like my government to be much farther away from me. They're trying to get a lot closer to me than I really want them to.

[Lightbringer]

@Khan

Despite my harsh criticism of the Democrats, I remain an American first. Large portions of the released material (For Example: Information revealing that the Yemeni Government was supporting American anti-terrorism efforts, even though the Yemenis publicly claimed they were NOT supporting such efforts.) are directly harmful towards efforts to fight terrorism. We can argue about whether "secret deals" are right or wrong, but these leaks have disrupted a coordinated strategy and not only put U.S. military personnel in greater danger, they put most of the "Islamic" governments who were willing to fight against terrorism in danger as well. Now, because of this fruit-fly Assange, Governments around the world are going to be much less willing to cooperate with us against Islamic Fundamentalism.

Is that what you see as a Good Result? More, and Stronger, Jihadism? Less resistance towards terrorists and fundamentalists from the governments that are in the best positions to root them out?

I think I would gladly pass on knowing which Diplomats said what insulting things about which world leaders, if we could keep more governmental opposition to radical fundamentalists in place. *shrugs* Assange ought to be arrested, and tried as a spy.

-Light

[sugarkane]

The most recent round of Wikileaks (cables) had hardly anything even worth talking about. Pretty much all of what I have read and I have read a lot of them, are worthless. All the 'bigger' stories on the newspapers and internet are what everyone knew anyway. It has just been 'confirmed' if you will. The real story here is who managed to 'steal' hundreds of thousands of classified documents.

[Lea]

Another people who probably remain an American first:

In short, Mr. Assange is not a journalist or publisher; rather, he is an enemy combatant - and should be treated as such.
(...)
News reports say the WikiLeaks founder is hiding out in England. If that's true, we should treat Mr. Assange the same way as other high-value terrorist targets: Kill him.

Jeffrey T. Kuhner - The Washington Times

[Lightbringer]

@Lea

Yes. Let us see Mr. Assange publish Russian leaks, and then we shall see who does the shooting. I find it amusing that anyone in Russia could have the gall to preach towards Americans about assassination. Or are you going to send someone to shoot me with a radioactive pellet from an umbrella gun?

-Light

[Cutlass]

Ahem.

IIRC it was a pellet coated with ricin that was used. Ricin is a neat little protein that is deadly in microgram amounts and acts to block the ability of cells to transcribe messenger RNA. Symptoms induced mimic the common cold but result in death within about 72 hours or so. There is no cure, antidote or treatment. Given that ricin is the sort of thing that has to be specially tested for and is usually hard to find given the small amount needed to produce the "desired" effect it makes an almost perfect assassination weapon. In the specific case I recall (a Russian defector who had moved to England and was on the outs with the KGB) they were only able to determine that ricin was used because the victim knew he had been shot/stabbed by something and the doctors who were trying to treat him recovered the pellet.

While all that stuff is somewhat neat, I'll see their "umbrella gun" and raise them a battle rifle clone in 7.62x51mm NATO. Why get closer than 400 yards if you don't have to?

[Lightbringer]

@Cutlass

You are correct. I can only claim coffee deficiency for my error. Anyway, my point stands, I believe. Russians who live in Glass Assassination Houses, should cast no stones.

-Light

[Lea]

Let us see Mr. Assange publish Russian leaks, and then we shall see who does the shooting. I find it amusing that anyone in Russia could have the gall to preach towards Americans about assassination.

The point is that I separate regime and public policy from nation and interests of the people. So I easy concern the Russian leaks.

[Lea]

Is he Canadian first?
Tom Flanagan called for the assassination of Wikileaks director Julian Assange

[Balthagor]

Don't think so...

[SoB]

I have to suport the amricans this man should be declard an enmay of the state by all nations. All though i do not think he should be shot. Dead men tell no tails. He shoud be interogated on who he's sources are and they should be shot for they are the true trator's.

[Lightbringer]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/12 ... 1&iref=BN1

-Light

(P.S. @Lea You seem to misunderstand the fundamental difference between Damaging National Security, and damaging the image of "regime and public policy". Damaging our War efforts makes American citizens and American troops less safe. Being safe is probably one of the "interests of the people". )

[The Khan]

I havent gotten to the bottom of this but did he point out specific US informants among the enemy? All the things I read about Turkey is stuff that shows traces of the corruption and some political motives...