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Imagine that...."free lunch" encourages people NOT to work, and even fidel finally has to admit it."Without people feeling the need to work to make a living, sheltered by state regulations that are excessively paternalistic and irrational, we will never stimulate a love for work,"
Socialism is like a dandelion or a kudzu vine. Sure it might have a pretty flower every once in awhile, but if you don't severely cut it back every now and then, it takes over the yard or the stand of trees.Lightbringer wrote:...as far from enslaved as possible...
Well, I would say you are incorrect, I would argue that American Liberty/Capitalism and Sovjet & Chinese are both are good and bad. I think the best options is a own mix of both systems + someother. I think Cuba has gone too much communist and should implement some reforms, in the early days, the Cuban people was poor and communism offered them a better more wealth and some free services(which richer people could only afford). The problem was then that communism did not allow Cuba to grow properly, due to the state control. USA economy again has good opportunities to grow, but from what I heard you lack the freedom for proper free health care and I've heard that your insurances is high I read somewhere the number "As low as $183 a year", Ok maybe this might be a special case, but I pay a lot less for the equivalent! Overall, I think Cuba needs to lift restrictions on agriculture and industry, + take steps towards Democracy. The Communism has held Cuba back too long and changes need to be done.Lightbringer wrote:@Hullu
Socialism is like a dandelion or a kudzu vine. Sure it might have a pretty flower every once in awhile, but if you don't severely cut it back every now and then, it takes over the yard or the stand of trees.Lightbringer wrote:...as far from enslaved as possible...
If you like depending on Big Brother to feed and clothe you and wipe your arse, and tuck you in at night, that is good for you. However, some people manage to live their lives without being dependent on government handouts.
-Light
I guess no barbershop barons will rise in cuba to challenge the castro brothers position in the wealth charts.We wouldnt want ole fidel to fall too far on (or even off) the forbes worlds richest people charts (fidel est at $900mil in 2006)"the denationalization of beauty parlors and barber shops, if they have no more than three chairs," ........ "With four or more, they remain government enterprises."
Read about negative and positive rights. Positive rights like a right to insurance or some other service is not freedom as it demands it to be taken from another. Negative rights require others to abstain from interferingHullu Hevonen wrote:Too much freedom is no freedom, no freedom is no freedom. You know, a little socialism is not that bad, here we have free health care, low insurances compared to yours(I pay 45-85 €/y in insurances, not that much in my opinion), But then again we have comparably higher taxes then others(everyone has personal taxation, the poor pay less tax and the rich pay higher tax). So we have socialism in Finland, but we do also have freedom and capitalism, we still have free markets etc... So in my opinion, a little "socialism" would be good, especially in the healthcare/insurance sectors. Also why would socialism make you "slaves" to the state? Let me ask you something, what would happine if your wife/husband/mother/father/you one day where hit by a truck while on your way to work and the insurance company refused you(lets say for the sake of argument, that you where responsible)? how much would it cost? I saw a documentary ones where a woman had to pay hundreds of dollars for her medication, but then she went to cuba and bought the same meds for a few cents... it was a well known documentary maker, cant right now remember his name...Lightbringer wrote:"Afraid"? Not exactly. We just like to be as close to free, and as far from enslaved by the State as possible. You know, that whole King George III thing. Kinda sorta like how Finns keep refusing to be ruled by Russia or Sweden. Why are Finns so Afraid of Swedes and Russians?Hullu Hevonen wrote:why are you all americans so afraid of socialism?
-Light
Afraid of the Swedes? noo... they have a slightly stronger economy then us, they are no threat to be afraid of. Russia, I think that the finns are both angered and afraid of the Russian because of there size and past/current actions.
They tried to fight once, and spectacularly failed.Hullu Hevonen wrote:Is Cuba really that bad? The old Guard of Cuba is soon going to start dying off and they are modernizing. The Cuban gov has genuine support in their country, plus those who did not like Cuba migrated to the US instead of fighting the Cuban regime.