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Re: 3D modelling

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To be fair exaggerated flattery also works quite a bit less of me than a simple polite suggestion.
Usually the people using that on me are telemarketers so to me it largely just says"hi I have something I want to sell to you so I am going to try and appeal to your ego to do so" ^_-

But seriously you and anyone else is free to make suggestions. I cannot promise anything simply due to the time it takes to make these models but I will look at it and as mentioned if I appear to have forgotten it you are more than welcome to bring it up again.
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Re: 3D modelling

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number47 wrote: Su-24 Fencer? :D
I was under the impression vanilla has one, but no, you`re right. Quite an important thing to miss too. If Nerei wants to push back the Su-30 then I`d also vote the Su-24 for next month.
EDIT: or maybe one of these "exotic" ones: JF-17 Thunder (FC-1 Xiaolong), HAL Tejas, HESA Azarakhsh (basicaly F-5 with different texture), HESA Saeqeh...
As far as the Iranian indigenous aircraft go it`s hard to know what if anything could be taken seriously:
http://www.janes.com/article/45633/iran ... cale-model
I agree with the JF-17 though and since we`re on the subject of rare planes, the AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kuo is worth mentioning too (especially considering Nerei`s interest in the Far East).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDC_F-CK-1_Ching-kuo
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Nerei wrote:To be fair exaggerated flattery also works quite a bit less of me than a simple polite suggestion.
I think you misunderstood what i wrote, i insisted like this because it was definitly not flattery :) I'm not expecting anything as i know how much time it can take and i guess everyone is thankfull for what modders do here. As you say it is just suggestion and i'm just fine with whatever new unit you produce here that is all ;)
Actually i'm mainly using your japanse naval units so far, i have a weakness for this country navy in the 1936 scenario. I used your model to extend it to similar looking class and it is good to play with modded units for a change.
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I know I am just saying there is no reason to do so as it reminds me of telemarketers ^_-

I try to strike a balance between requested units and models I think is missing so really feel free to make suggestions. I do try and make at least some of them.
You might not have guessed it but my favourite World War 2 navy happens to be the Japanese. Not that they are better than say the US Navy I just happens to prefer the aesthetics. It is also a significant reason as to why I like modern Japanese aircraft. I like their aesthetics.
I will probably be adding more vessels to the Imperial Navy at some point as I do have several vessels with some progress done to them.

As for the F-CK-1 believe it or not but I have had reference for that aircraft ready for well over 6 months.
For October I am open to suggestions for models. I am open to going for the Su-24. As always no promises but feel free to make suggestions for regional patterns.


Also the Patriot is mostly done at this point. Just some tweaks left.
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As for the F-CK-1 believe it or not but I have had reference for that aircraft ready for well over 6 months.
I think it`s actually one of the last currently active fighting aircraft (excluding trainers, transport, refueling etc.) that we don`t have covered so far in any version.

AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kuo
Su-24
HAL Tejas - although this is at prototype stage and symbolic service quantities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_Tejas
IAI Kfir - still in - albeit limited - service; though you could also argue that since we have the vanilla Mirage III it`s not entirely neglected.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Kfir#Current
Dassault-Breguet Super Étendard - still in service with Argentina I think
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault- ... #Argentina
J-22 Orao / IAR-93-Vultur - the Romanian version was retired almost two decades ago and I think it`s only in limited service with Serbia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soko_J-22_Orao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avioane_C ... -93_Vultur

Did I miss anything?
For October I am open to suggestions for models. I am open to going for the Su-24. As always no promises but feel free to make suggestions for regional patterns.
Most active aircraft are in service with Russia and they have a pretty straightforward scheme (which is shared by other operators):
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia-A ... TL8gVKjy5d
Other than that I know Ukraine has a digital camo on some of its planes, but I doubt it would be noticeable in game:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Ukraine- ... C6pRMSU%3D
and then there`s the Iranian camo:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Iran-Air ... 60LD/60y4W
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Iran-Air ... 60LD/60y4W
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Iran-Air ... TL8gVKjy5d
Imo you should just make the Russian version with and without national markings (for the generic version) and put the effort required for a second texture into something else.

What does for October mean here btw? That it would be released in early October or that it will be on the workbench in October (and released in November)?
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October in this case would mean early November release. Early October is going to be the CV-90, Mirage 2000C and something else. Possibly the Polikarpov I-15 (I have had it modelled for some time).

I have actually at one point considered the Super Étendard and Tejas. It will be some time before I can get to them though. I also want to do the Su-25 though like the others it is not something you should expect anytime soon. October itself is in part going to focus on clearing up all my incomplete US Navy vessels as well as a few others. I also have a Tu-22M3 that needs to be finished as does my Mi-28.
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Re: 3D modelling

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The same texture issue visible in the J-10 pic is happening to me with T-72 :-(

Not sure if it matters, but I checked and there is only T-72_tx.dds and no T-72_tx.png in meshes folder...

EDIT: hmm, T-72M1 is ok but T-72M is missing texture...what could have I messed up? I just assigned 1752 to both unitIDs...
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The .dds is the correct file. I only use directdraw surface textures for these models.
I do however think I know what the issue is. The texture for the T-72 is the old one not the new rebuilt one. I think I might have uploaded the old one originally and it got passed along to full release.

The quick fix is to use this one instead. I suspect everyone want to grab this file.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7zqjgudt5x4k ... x.dds?dl=0

I will poke mr. Latour about getting the old one replaced.
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I think I'm an idiot :D

I'm playing Syria and the regional texture might be the problem

When I played Kazakhstan and bought Su-34 it had the same texture as the ones Russians used. Now when I bought Su-34 as a Syria, they have a different texture. So maybe the "international" texture for T-72 was not finished? Since I see Russian T-72M1 running around with correct textures

EDIT: yes! the new texture you provided corrected the texture! Thanks a lot!
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I have no idea why one unit has textures and the other does not if both have the same ID assigned to it.
Syria however should not have any regional textures for the T-72. The only nation with those is Russia.

No I think there is an issue here on my part as the default T-72 texture I included in June download definitely is the old one and not the new and the only T-72 texture in the default game is also the old texture.
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Re: 3D modelling

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That's what I meant but failed to communicate. The "default" texture for T-72 was corrupted and the Russian one was ok. That's why Syrian T-72s had bad texture. When I copied the texture you provided few posts back, it corrected the issue, so you should inform BG to change the default T-72 texture.

Thanks for assistance! 8)
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Good that it is solved.

I already have written to mr. Latour about it. I cannot say when it might be changed but he does know about it.
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Nerei, how difficult/time consuming would it be to make a "desert camo" variant of the existing texture?
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Depends on the texture. A single tone or a colour changed version of the Russian texture only takes a few minutes. A custom texture which is probably what I would go with really depends on the pattern in question. In that situation a 2 tone like the modern Japanese is quite simple and fast to make compared to much more complex patterns like the RoK or US MERDC.

I am actually fairly interested in suggestions for desert patterns for region group Z as I feel like overhauling the old Egypt style one I used on the T-55.
So anyone got suggestions for camouflage patterns for Arab vehicles?

Ideally it should not be too identical to any of the patterns in this picture not that there would be much chance of that with most of them.
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If you`re talking about desert camouflage in general and not necessarily for the T-72 or for Egypt, then UAE has an attractive scheme for its Leclercs that seems different enough from what you`ve shown above:
https://defence.pk/pdf/proxy.php?image= ... 7bcb420f1e
http://www.janes.com/images/assets/217/ ... 703386.jpg
http://www.armyrecognition.com/moyen_or ... 005_01.jpg

Now, may I go into hypotheticals too? :-) How time consuming would it be to make a THAAD?
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/thaad_images.htm
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