GOVTYPE question (Split from Changelog 9.2.3)

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GOVTYPE question (Split from Changelog 9.2.3)

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What exactly is meant by gdpinfluence(Influence on gdp/c )? What is the impact on gdp? And range to adjustment is 0-1 or 0-11?
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Re: GOVTYPE question (Split from Changelog 9.2.3)

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I split your post since it doesn't directly relate to the update. It's more about the data we posted here;
https://supremeruler.gamepedia.com/Govtype

I don't know the answer, I'll pass along the question.
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Also, another one from discord:

what is the Event ID for a fascist Coup?
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Re: GOVTYPE question (Split from Changelog 9.2.3)

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Well, #19 is "coup".

https://supremeruler.gamepedia.com/Events

We don't have something that is specifically a "fascist coup". Not sure what that actually means, there is no govtype of Fascist.
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YaYo7 wrote:
May 08 2020
GOVTYPE
What exactly is meant by gdpinfluence(Influence on gdp/c )? What is the impact on gdp? And range to adjustment is 0-1 or 0-11?
The gdpinfluence value is a multiplier that is used when calculating the adjustment to the regions gdp each day. This is a fairly complicated equation that takes into account a lot of region variables at different weights. But to simplify it is a number that will be multiplied with the calculated adjustment. Any positive floating point value will work. Having the value set as 1 is the same as not having any additional gdp adjustments, where as 0 would zero out the value entirely, 0.5 would give half the adjustment, and 2.5 would give you 2.5x the normal adjustments. Hope that this helps.
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Also, another one from discord:

what is the Event ID for a fascist Coup?
Like Balthagor had mentioned there is no specific event for a "facist" coup, but event 19 will change the government type to Dictatorship, and event 31 will let you specify any of the GovTypes
https://supremeruler.gamepedia.com/Events
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D-bassett, This value also indicates how much GDP will rise/fall?
In the new update GOVTYPE is added in to wmdata this is very good. This will allow a better assessment of the advantages/disadvantages of various forms of government.
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YaYo7 wrote:
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D-bassett, This value also indicates how much GDP will rise/fall?
Not exactly, but it plays a part in how much it rises or falls by. For instance setting this value to 0.9 will make the GDP change at a 10% slower rate than normal (1.0). If you want to speed up the rate of change then increase this number, to slow the rate of change decrease the number.
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Re: GOVTYPE question (Split from Changelog 9.2.3)

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d-bassett wrote:
May 08 2020
YaYo7 wrote:
May 08 2020
D-bassett, This value also indicates how much GDP will rise/fall?
Not exactly, but it plays a part in how much it rises or falls by. For instance setting this value to 0.9 will make the GDP change at a 10% slower rate than normal (1.0). If you want to speed up the rate of change then increase this number, to slow the rate of change decrease the number.
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Re: GOVTYPE question (Split from Changelog 9.2.3)

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In the GOVTYPE list missing some important tags- Inflation/diflation multiplier and Facilities construction time multiplier. Is it possible to add them?
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Re: GOVTYPE question (Split from Changelog 9.2.3)

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The Government Type data structure won't be updated for Supreme Ruler Ultimate, but we have changes planned for Galactic Ruler and for the Next Generation of Supreme Ruler.
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IN Next Gen SR would be nice to divide govtype into 3 types- government, economic, millitary, to make the system more flexible. Example: if you play for a country with a communist government, you can choose two economic models- Planned Economy or State capitalism with their positive and negative effects. If you play for a country with a democratic government, you can choose two economic models - Free market economy or State capitalism.

P.S. The current Communism not suitable for modern China in 2020 scenarios. I did some small tests, so that Chinese GDP grows more energetically.(especially under ai control)

8, 0.000, 0.700, 0.800, 1.200, 1.500, 2.000, 0.500, 0.500, 0.500, -1.000, 1.500, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000, 0.900, 0.900, 0.900, 0.900, 0.900, 0.900, 0.900, 1.200, 1.200, 1.200, 1.100, 1.000, 0.000, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000, 1.200, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000, 1.200, 1.000, 1.000, "// Chinese Communism" In Variables.ini you need to indicate the name of the government. The 8 type of government is used.

milcostmult
labourcostmult
gdpinfluence
baserateadj
proddemandmult(demand- agri,rub,tim,oil,coal,ore,uran,electr,cons,ind,mil)
prodoutmult(output- agri,rub,tim,oil,coal,ore,uran,electr,cons,ind,mil)
lawenforcemult
infrastructuremult
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