I've always thought that TREASURY income = SURPLUS/DEFICIT + TRADE income.
Am I wrong?
In my current game treasury figures don't add up.
I have budget deficit at -$2B and trade income at $2,5B but my treasury is decreasing.
Am I missing something?
Question about treasury
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Re: Question about treasury
One thing you're probably missing is that the trade number you're looking at only takes into account world market trades. Any direct nation to nation trades you've made or accepted don't show up in those figures, but will continue to effect your treasury as you'd expect. For your situation, I imagine that you have deals to purchase resources from other nations directly which would explain the discrepancy. Which honestly this can be confusing and should probably be looked at.
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Re: Question about treasury
Direct trade deals certainly not the case because I only sell goods, never buy.
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Re: Question about treasury
Are you sure about your numbers? Is this a single day snapshot or an observation over several days?
If it is a single day snap it might be a bug
Just curious because both, budget and trade income, can vary a lot on a daily basis. Trade income usually, when your trade minister sometimes sells your stuff and one day later he can't because of market price fluctuations and competition. This way on one day you get 2.5b trade income, the day after only 0.3b results in an average trade income way lower then 2.5 b.
Budget has some weird expense peaks in times of war. This is related to your defcon switching from elevated to high to war and the other way around and your war preparation costs go up and down the same way. Don't know why it works that way but does make sense. For example in WW2 several south american states formally declared war on the axis without contributing a single man to the fighting. But being at war without fighting a war does not cost you much more than maintenance in peace times.
If it is a single day snap it might be a bug
Just curious because both, budget and trade income, can vary a lot on a daily basis. Trade income usually, when your trade minister sometimes sells your stuff and one day later he can't because of market price fluctuations and competition. This way on one day you get 2.5b trade income, the day after only 0.3b results in an average trade income way lower then 2.5 b.
Budget has some weird expense peaks in times of war. This is related to your defcon switching from elevated to high to war and the other way around and your war preparation costs go up and down the same way. Don't know why it works that way but does make sense. For example in WW2 several south american states formally declared war on the axis without contributing a single man to the fighting. But being at war without fighting a war does not cost you much more than maintenance in peace times.
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Re: Question about treasury
Ongoing diplomatic trades are not shown in the budget lines.
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Re: Question about treasury
would be very nice if they did - or show a 2nd line "Diplomatic trades"Balthagor wrote:Ongoing diplomatic trades are not shown in the budget lines.
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http://www.bgforums.com/forums/viewtopi ... 79&t=25932 (even techs and units for everyone - AI will own you too)
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Re: Question about treasury
sorry to resurrect this - but i got the same issue while being the only region left on the planet !
(i use my mod - but i doubt i modded treasury calculations by accident)
i got a big surplus in the treasury - and usually no trades (sometimes there are trades but there are no exporters, and surplus immigration, another 2 issues)
but they are small compared to my regions surplus.
And the treasury still drops!
Please check the formulas
(i use my mod - but i doubt i modded treasury calculations by accident)
i got a big surplus in the treasury - and usually no trades (sometimes there are trades but there are no exporters, and surplus immigration, another 2 issues)
but they are small compared to my regions surplus.
And the treasury still drops!
Please check the formulas
my mods
http://www.bgforums.com/forums/viewtopi ... 79&t=25932 (even techs and units for everyone - AI will own you too)
http://www.bgforums.com/forums/viewtopi ... 79&t=29326 (MARSX2)
http://www.bgforums.com/forums/viewtopi ... 79&t=25932 (even techs and units for everyone - AI will own you too)
http://www.bgforums.com/forums/viewtopi ... 79&t=29326 (MARSX2)