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Hullu Hevonen
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Re: Supreme Ruler 2033

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George Weah wrote:...
Before I answer I want to say that this story was written at the beginning of the Eastern 'revolt'. You have to keep in mind this is a story meant for a war game essentially, so I used some artistic freedom. Also Personally I dislike the government in Kiev, the separatist, Moscow government, Washington DC government and the EU, because all of them are to blame in escalating this conflict.

Since you mentioned the term Russian propaganda and terrorists countless times, here is my regular list of news sites that I regularly follow:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk
http://www.svt.se/nyheter/
http://edition.cnn.com/
http://www.livestation.com/
http://www.dw.de/
http://www.foxnews.com/
http://www.bbc.com/
http://rt.com/
http://smallwars.org/
http://hbl.fi/
http://www.aljazeera.com/
http://www.hs.fi/
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/
http://uk.reuters.com/
http://online.wsj.com/europe
http://www.euronews.com/
http://www.tivi.fi/
http://areena.yle.fi/tv
http://en.itar-tass.com/
http://yle.fi/
https://news.vice.com/

So for my reply :-)
The story itself is not nearly finished yet and I don't either know when the mod itself will be finished yet. I recognize that my story on Ukraine contains errors and I appreciate people trying to help make it better. For the mods sake I want to have a story on Ukraine and Russian relations, since I plan to have that as a central part of a possible meltdown point in Europe. I was thinking of maybe doing something for Belarus as well when power changes hands there. So when I wrote that part I just wanted to have a story that I would later rewrite, but so that I have some idea of where I am going with the mod. At some point I have to cut the story from reality and start an 'alternative' story-line.

As for your first scenario, I would appreciate news sources on that Kazakhstan scenario, I haven't heard anything about it. The news that I hear is that Kazakhstan is so under the thumb of Russia that they actually benefit economically from it, because such an large amount of trade goes there. Something like a third of their imports come from Russia if I remember correctly, and they are politically strongly aligned to Russia.

As for scenario 2 & 3, My current thinking on the Ukraine and Russia situation is that Russia risks becoming too dependent on China economically so that they will secede their international standing/dominance more to China. As for Novorossiya I don't think Russia will be able to annex it, even though I think Russia would wan't to extend the border to the Dniepr river, the West would never allow it. Ukraine can count on American help to atleast some extent since they se this conflict as an hegemonic one, if Russia is allowed to challenge the the Americans without consequences then that would show example to other nations like China etc that they could do the same. I am still hopeful that a stalemate situation will occur and that negotiations will resolve the situation in the East, otherwise there is a possibility for an bigger war which would not be good. Recently I read that NATO is planning an rapid response for in response to the not so covert new Russian offensive in southern Donbass, which Russia recently launched. So if this conflict continues without an end and these to forces meet on the battle field, you could have a serious escalation on your hands. As for the entire population of Ukraine being united I don't agree, the population in the east is actually more hostile then in the rest of Ukraine, but the East would not have survived this long without Russian help either. I personally think news.vice.com has done a good cover on this conflict.

You also have to keep in mind the fact that Russia can technically keep going on this conflict for a while since they have huge wealth funds to cover the economic losses of this conflict, like the Russian National Wealth Fund. So thats why I think Russia is playing the long game and why I think there would not be an end to this conflict until an broad stalemate occurs.

So I will try to factor as much fact as I can into the story, while still trying to keep it relatively short :-)
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Re: Supreme Ruler 2033

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I recognize that my story on Ukraine contains errors and I appreciate people trying to help make it better.
No problem, if you don't mind I could be your advisor for Ukraine, Russia, Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Poland, Lithuania including relations, territory, economy and military, cause I’m directly related to the events there and know Ukrainian and Russian language. Also my interests touch Nigeria, Equatorial Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone.
At some point I have to cut the story from reality and start an 'alternative' story-line.
No, no, please, any alternative scenarios, more reality means more rush, more joy! (as for me)
Don’t you mind? :-)
Kazakhstan
Pease note that I could read Russian-speaking news that may appear earlier or even not appear at all in English news and I’m directly related to the events there.

So, at the latest youth forum "Seliger - 2014" Putin announced that Kazakhstan never had their own statehood. These words were said on the background of the latest support of Kyiv by Kazakhstan in their striving for association with the EU. Many Kazakhs bloggers strongly criticized such Putin’s statement.

Furthermore, after the Crimea annex the Kremlin critics talking about the increased disputes about nationality of the northern territories of Kazakhstan, which is currently the home for a large number of Russian-speaking population.

Known Russian troll politician Vladimir Zhirinovsky in the interview to radio "Echo of Moscow" said that "we will take Kazakhstan after Ukraine " as "Russophobe moods" among the Kazakhs have recently become stronger.

In response, yesterday, Kazakh president Nazarbayev said that Kazakhstan will possibly withdraw from the Eurasian Union (Russia and Belarus).

So, I think that in case of the 3WW Kazakhstan will not support Russia, and Kazakhstan could face with the same aggression from Russia as Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova.
Russia risks becoming too dependent on China economically so that they will secede their international standing/dominance more to China.
100% agree
As for Novorossiya I don't think Russia will be able to annex it
Yes, well as I said. Novorossiya will be created by the full support of Russia and neither country will recognize it except of Russia ant their artificial satellites. The problem is that Russia will not be able to restore this region in any case, it will be some kind of nightmare empty buffer zone between EU and Russia.
Russia would wan't to extend the border to the Dniepr river, the West would never allow it.
100% agree, not only with the support of West, I know the real mood of the Ukrainian people that live there even far from Dniper – they are going to die but will never let the Russian troops to invade. But in any case the possibility to expend the territory of Novorossiya (in addition to the eastern regions) is still very high.
As for the entire population of Ukraine being united I don't agree, the population in the east is actually more hostile then in the rest of Ukraine,
Maybe, depends on how the armed confrontation will end. I think it is possible but if the Ukrainian forces manage to release Lugansk and Donetsk from the Russian terrorists, take control together with OSCE under the border and recover Ukrainian TV broadcast. In the other case, Novorossiya will surely appear.
but the East would not have survived this long without Russian help either.
What do you mean? Terrorists would surely not have survived without Russia but citizens would have, if Russia stopped to deliver humanitarian goods in the form of its terrorists and weapon …

Thank you, if you don’t mind I could help but I’m only interested in creation of real world mod for SR1936 and looking for the allies )))

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Well I think I have to decline your help, but you are free to give me your viewpoints as you just did, I prefer my creative freedom so to say :). The goal of this mod is to be a 'plausible' or realistic mod.

As for an general note, I have been too optimistic in the time estimation of this mods release. I'm sorry but I have no date to when it will be ready, the development is coming along. After my last trip I wanted to take some time to enjoy summer and such before university starts :)
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Re: Supreme Ruler 2033

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Hey, is this mod still being worked on? It's been like a few months and I wonder how the progress is coming. I also hope this is SRUltimate compatible, though the 2 games look very similar. :)
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It's being worked on, but the release date is indefinite, due to me tending to be over optimistic :D when estimating release dates, I'm not going to give a date. I don't know about SRU (haven't got it yet), but it should be fairly compatible.
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Ok thanks for the updating me on that. :D I mean, the last update you put on was in July also (still there).
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Supreme Ruler Ultimate Update 8.2.8 update is out, good news. There is still no 1914 (world War 1 mod) bad news.
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I am putting this mod on indefinitive hold. This is due to numerous engine limitations and other frustrations with the game, personal time constraints/being busy among other things. Sorry for the bad news and squashed hopes :-(
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