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Airplanes crash all time etc etc

#1 Post by diman » Sep 23 2016

Even in trump version bugs still exists as in all supreme ruler games
I have the ultimate pc so no problems from my side
Im playing strategy games 30+ years now and supreme ruler series are by far the best games but what a pitty that bugs occure all time and remove my fun :-(
After so many years of playing all supreme ruler games i realized that i havent ever conquer all world or finish a game from all those bugs that appeared anytime
All airplanes no matter what they crash ,running out of fuel, in flight in air patrol ,in attacks etc
Also all vehicles run out of fuel
The problem is the speed of game
In normal speed they move very slow (many units in game etc) when the fuel consumption remains high so planes crashes,vehicles remain out of fuel etc
Diffirent saves ,diffirent handling of game have no solution
In fastest speed they move very fast but still running out of fuel and crashes
No unit path,they dont calculate distances to airfields etc
I hope some day all those bugs will be solved cause the game is the best and not deserve it

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#2 Post by BareJag » Aug 29 2017

I run into this problem today too. The game run fine for several years without problems. But suddenly air units started crashing. I found it to be air units on patrol. Other air units started to crash too. I was planning a battle with 42 air units based on four two airfields and two bases close to the battlefield. I sent out 21. Five of run out of fuel, but that where those I left on the ground (maybe in range of enemy stealth-fighters). Somehow they got forced up in the air despite air superiority, no nearby units or known AA in range, and enemy helicopters maybe 50 km away. I couldn't get them back on the ground before they run out of fuel. Airfields not overcrowded. Lots of fuel and money available. Full training budget. No AI unit control. Units flying low before crashing. Loading an older save does not help. A day before or so I saw units flying low and attacking (and being attacked by) ground units despite having no permission to do so.

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#3 Post by Balthagor » Aug 29 2017

Got a savegame from before the battle?
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#4 Post by Kristijonas » Aug 29 2017

I have seen this before but not recently. I wonder what causes this. Maybe unit ROE ? Like, maybe they are set to loss tolerance: "none" or "full" or some other such setting? Maybe it happens if minister is locked out of control so there is no one to send the airplane back? Just throwing theories.

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#5 Post by YoMomma » Aug 30 2017

I experienced same things especially with the multi roles of Russia like;

MIG-29 SMT
MIG35-OVT

The fuel cap seem so low they are not listening to stuff. I mean 405 fuel cap for MIG-29, well maybe they just use too much petrol, maybe stat is wrong idk.
Gameplay 1st

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#6 Post by BareJag » Sep 03 2017

This is the save just before the offensive is about to begin.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8lYvu ... sp=sharing
The upcoming battle is in the middle of Germany. Hotkey 5 and 6 is among the combatants.

As I wrote before, I've been loosing air units for a while (maybe a month), but so far only units I haven't kept very good track of, like new units relocating, and Global Hawks on patrol.

This save should be from before I discovered the problem, though I believe it appeared much later.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8lYvu ... sp=sharing

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#7 Post by BareJag » Sep 01 2019

I got this same bug again. Planes far from any fronts or borders flying slow, then crashing. Though this time my planes fighting in my current war had no problems. As far as I saw it happened to planes relocating, both short distances over own territory and long distances over international water and friendly lands. Lots of airbases to use. Both newbuilt and old planes affected. No recent changes done to minister or any rules, as I've been focusing on my war.

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#8 Post by Balthagor » Sep 01 2019

k, we'll take another look at the previous savegames. If you have your current savegame, we can take a look at that as well.

I'm curious, are these aircraft that you ordered to move, or the AI? What is your orders panel, move in formation option set too? On or off?

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#9 Post by BareJag » Sep 15 2019

When it happened before my planes where set on patrol as I recall. When it happened today it was planes ordered to escort ground units. I also tried having them landing, they kept on flying slow when they took of again. Same result when I sent them to the reserve and trying again, or sending them on different missions. This is a new save with 9.1.140. Neither mods or cheats used.

Save M020
This is before it happens

Save M022
And this is after. Quite early in the game this time. Battle group 4 (Su-36) is among those stuck with this problem here. Try ordering them around and see. Most planes are set on escort here. If you let the game play for a while you will see most of the planes going down. I've tried changing most of the ROE, but nothing seems to help. Sometimes they "jump" a sqare or so at their normal speed before returning to flying slow. This more often happens at the end of their destinations. Helicopters also seems to be affected.

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