Italy Conquers Ethiopia then Liberates

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Italy Conquers Ethiopia then Liberates

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And two hexes remain Italian.

This happens every single time.

New game, send everything over, conquer them in a couple weeks, liberate...same result.

It's always those 2 hexes.
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Those two hexes aren't Ethiopian loyal then.

And if you liberate, you're changing history. Actions that change history may create strange results. We will continue to work to make them only surprising or unexpected but less strange.

Noted, thanks.
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So, if they aren't loyal....

Then either you guys set them wrong at the beginning of the scenario as base Italian or the Liberation mode isn't set right to configure those hexes as Ethiopian?

Shouldn't all 3 options claim all ex-Ethopian hexes as their own?
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They are probably Eritrean. I will look into it, hence the "noted" comment.

Liberate always creates the nation based on loyalty. If A conquers B and you "liberate" A only gets A's territory. I'm fuzzy on the exact rules for B, I'll have to look them up (and those rules are already marked for review).
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Re: Italy Conquers Ethiopia then Liberates

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In my current (newest version, USA) game, the Germans just conquered, then liberated, Belgium. Not colony--restored them to nationhood. The Germans have annex everything else (minus Denmark, which becomes a colony by event).
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about loyalty....maybe I wrong, but in Italian Somaliland and Lybia there is italian loyalty...is that correct??
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No, they are loyal to themselves. They do use the same flag in those years though.
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Balthagor wrote:No, they are loyal to themselves. They do use the same flag in those years though.
ok...
but..I think I don't know how see the loyalty in sr1936..... |O
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dax1 wrote:
Balthagor wrote:No, they are loyal to themselves. They do use the same flag in those years though.
ok...
but..I think I don't know how see the loyalty in sr1936..... |O
The GUI for loyalty has changed twice already and will be different in the next update. The next version, when loyalty is different than ownership you get a red <!> symbol beside the population of the hex. Hold over the icon to see loyalty.
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Balthagor wrote:
dax1 wrote:
Balthagor wrote:No, they are loyal to themselves. They do use the same flag in those years though.
ok...
but..I think I don't know how see the loyalty in sr1936..... |O
The GUI for loyalty has changed twice already and will be different in the next update. The next version, when loyalty is different than ownership you get a red <!> symbol beside the population of the hex. Hold over the icon to see loyalty.
I noted, but why not in Italian Lybia flag???
I'm little confused...
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Aragos wrote:In my current (newest version, USA) game, the Germans just conquered, then liberated, Belgium. Not colony--restored them to nationhood. The Germans have annex everything else (minus Denmark, which becomes a colony by event).
That is great if done intentionaly. I was getting bored to death by the AI only annexing every region. I hope that now it randomly "decides" if it's going to colonize, annex or liberate conquered region...
Please teach AI everything!
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dax1 wrote:I noted, but why not in Italian Lybia flag???
I'm little confused...
Sorry, I don't understand. Lybia didn't have a flag when it was a colony of Italy. Italy didn't use colonial flags the way the Brits did.
Zuikaku wrote:...randomly "decides" if it's going to colonize, annex or liberate conquered region...
Random would be horrible. It needs to be logical, whatever its choice is. Liberate isn't something AI's would do until post WWII. We can control the outcome in most of the important instances.
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Balthagor wrote: Random would be horrible. It needs to be logical, whatever its choice is. Liberate isn't something AI's would do until post WWII. We can control the outcome in most of the important instances.
So ,WW2 events are scripted, but after WW2 AI has a greater freedom of choice? Just hope it won't annex everything like in SRCW.
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Re: Italy Conquers Ethiopia then Liberates

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Balthagor wrote:
dax1 wrote:I noted, but why not in Italian Lybia flag???
I'm little confused...
Sorry, I don't understand. Lybia didn't have a flag when it was a colony of Italy. Italy didn't use colonial flags the way the Brits did.
I mean in Georgia Rep. there is the <!> and loyalty to Georgia
In Lybia I can't see <!>..so how I can see the loyalty in Lybia??
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Re: Italy Conquers Ethiopia then Liberates

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If you can't see it, then the loyalty is the same. The <!> is a warning of loyalty being different. If loyalty is the same as the region, there is nothing to show.
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