ixonixas wrote:Baltic countries in World 2020 (Since we are making it to be realistic):
Lithuania
Latvia
Estonia
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Allies (NATO): US, UK, France, Germany, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Belgium, Denmark, each other, Norway, Canada, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Slovakia, Slovenia, Czechs, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Iceland, Greece, Croatia, Albania (No free trade or free borders for workers just military alliance - No EU), Macedonia (Same as Albania), Turkey (Same as Albania).
Really Friendly (unofficial allies) to: Sweden, Finland, Ukraine and Georgia
Friendly to: Japan, South Korea, Moldova, Israel (and) Palestine, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Ireland, Austria, Switzerland, Andorra, Malta and Cyprus.
Not friendly to: Syria, Belarus, Armenia, Mongolia, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, Serbia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan. (Mostly lack of political approval, people are indifferent, except Belarus, Serbia and Kazakhstan)
Hostile to: RUSSIA
Proposed Changes to World 2020 (Alliances, Bases,....)
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Still waiting for an update. Not fixed yet.
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The relations will still be looked at but we're not modeling NATO, the alliances won't be added.
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I do have a related question; will relations and such be looked at for the shattered world scenario? From a US perspective its pretty bland as the whole US seems to love each other unlike CR:2020 where a bunch of the states would fight each other. (Note: I was playing with the highest volatility and most of the fighting has occurred outside the US with SK curbstomping everyone)
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Re: Proposed Changes to World 2020 (Alliances, Bases,....)
Don't blame ya since while it CAN be modeled the engine wasn't exactly designed with multilateral treaties in mind.Balthagor wrote:The relations will still be looked at but we're not modeling NATO, the alliances won't be added.
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I'd like to add stuff to Shattered World but I don't see any development time being devoted to it in the short term. Perhaps further down the pipe.Chesehead wrote:I do have a related question; will relations and such be looked at for the shattered world scenario? From a US perspective its pretty bland as the whole US seems to love each other unlike CR:2020 where a bunch of the states would fight each other. (Note: I was playing with the highest volatility and most of the fighting has occurred outside the US with SK curbstomping everyone)
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New Croatian president elected...the mandate lasts till 18.02.2020
"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking."
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I need a photo in the public domain that I can use the make the leader pics...
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The new Slovenian president is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borut_Pahor .
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Is he going to win again in 2017?
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More Proposed changes to World 2020
Added Colonies/Loyalties
USA- U.S. Virgin Islands
Guam
Denmark- Greenland
Faroe Islands
Finland- Åland islands
United Kingdom- Falklands
Gibraltar
Island Colonies away from Mainland that are in 1949
France- 1949 islands in the Americas and the south Pacific.
Netherlands- Aruba
Alliances/sphere leaning.
Alliance- NATO, Includes USA, Canada, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, United Kingdom, Greece, Turkey, Spain, Portugal, France, Italy, Germany, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Albania, Romania, Bulgaria. Slovakia, Croatia, and Bulgaria.
Defense Pact- Nordic Battle Group/Nordic Council Mutual Defense, Full Transit treaty, Free Flow of labor Force, and Free trade between: Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Iceland
Romania- Blue Aligned- Better relations with the west, Allied with NATO Nations
Bulgaria- Blue Aligned- Better Relations with the west, Allied with NATO Nations
Albania- Blue Aligned- Better Relations with the west, Allied with NATO Nations
Finland- Blue Leaning
Estonia Blue Aligned- Allied with NATO nations
Lithuania- From red to Blue Aligned- Allied with NATO Nations
Latvia- Blue Aligned- Allied with NATO Nations
Germany- Blue Aligned- Allied with NATO nations
Montenegro- Red leaning- Allied with Serbia, Bad relations with blue nations.
Added Colonies/Loyalties
USA- U.S. Virgin Islands
Guam
Denmark- Greenland
Faroe Islands
Finland- Åland islands
United Kingdom- Falklands
Gibraltar
Island Colonies away from Mainland that are in 1949
France- 1949 islands in the Americas and the south Pacific.
Netherlands- Aruba
Alliances/sphere leaning.
Alliance- NATO, Includes USA, Canada, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, United Kingdom, Greece, Turkey, Spain, Portugal, France, Italy, Germany, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Albania, Romania, Bulgaria. Slovakia, Croatia, and Bulgaria.
Defense Pact- Nordic Battle Group/Nordic Council Mutual Defense, Full Transit treaty, Free Flow of labor Force, and Free trade between: Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Iceland
Romania- Blue Aligned- Better relations with the west, Allied with NATO Nations
Bulgaria- Blue Aligned- Better Relations with the west, Allied with NATO Nations
Albania- Blue Aligned- Better Relations with the west, Allied with NATO Nations
Finland- Blue Leaning
Estonia Blue Aligned- Allied with NATO nations
Lithuania- From red to Blue Aligned- Allied with NATO Nations
Latvia- Blue Aligned- Allied with NATO Nations
Germany- Blue Aligned- Allied with NATO nations
Montenegro- Red leaning- Allied with Serbia, Bad relations with blue nations.
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Off-topic but I just cannot help myself . . . Holy ****! That is the sexiest President I have ever seen in my life!number47 wrote:New Croatian president elected...the mandate lasts till 18.02.2020
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Some hexes I have noted to be important:
-I live nearby XY 556, 561 and there is one big industrial complex with mostly industrial goods production. Also big rice plantations.
-Chernobyl in XY 985, 176 is a industrial complex with population, shouldn't it be an abadoned city instead and without working nuclear plants?
-I've been to San Francisco, there are two major airports in Oakland and in south of SF. (More supply, more production)
-Porto Alegre in XY 557, 562 should have an air field.
-Both São Paulo and Guarulhos should have Air Bases or Air Fields at least, they are the biggest airports of Brazil. (586,530/585,530)
-Maldonado at XY 535,586 is a huge casino beach city, it should have a Turist Attraction.
I hope that is of some help.
-I live nearby XY 556, 561 and there is one big industrial complex with mostly industrial goods production. Also big rice plantations.
-Chernobyl in XY 985, 176 is a industrial complex with population, shouldn't it be an abadoned city instead and without working nuclear plants?
-I've been to San Francisco, there are two major airports in Oakland and in south of SF. (More supply, more production)
-Porto Alegre in XY 557, 562 should have an air field.
-Both São Paulo and Guarulhos should have Air Bases or Air Fields at least, they are the biggest airports of Brazil. (586,530/585,530)
-Maldonado at XY 535,586 is a huge casino beach city, it should have a Turist Attraction.
I hope that is of some help.
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Is it not possible to come up with a World 2020 senario where you can turn off Alliances and NAP'S and make it more volotile?
The reason i as is that for the 1st time in the long years iv spent playing this game iv made it to 2060 and compleated the teck tree the UK beet everyone to Mar's .
Now the 1st 5 or 6 years of the game were fairly good with china starting some wars but then i spent the next 34 years twiddling my thumbs and im still twiddling going into 2061.
My point really is could you not make a 2020 senario thats more random, the player can set if alliances NAP,S are on or off in settings. , a bit more violent with comflicts breaking out more often when CB reaches say 75 or 80% and maybe make relations between nations around the continents go up and down more.
At the moment even with very high volotility even in Global Crisis nothing really happends after the China invations and id like to see a few more nations looking to expand there borders.
The reason i as is that for the 1st time in the long years iv spent playing this game iv made it to 2060 and compleated the teck tree the UK beet everyone to Mar's .
Now the 1st 5 or 6 years of the game were fairly good with china starting some wars but then i spent the next 34 years twiddling my thumbs and im still twiddling going into 2061.
My point really is could you not make a 2020 senario thats more random, the player can set if alliances NAP,S are on or off in settings. , a bit more violent with comflicts breaking out more often when CB reaches say 75 or 80% and maybe make relations between nations around the continents go up and down more.
At the moment even with very high volotility even in Global Crisis nothing really happends after the China invations and id like to see a few more nations looking to expand there borders.
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There's a big industrial complex in Lithuania in/near the city of Jonava (it's in the map), called "Achema".
The complex takes up 360 hectares and employs over 1400 workers.
The primary product made there are fertilizers, but they also produce various gases and tars. It's a chemical industrial complex. There is even a hospital and firefighters station there.
The complex area is restricted access and is protected by a barbed wire. It is a no-fly zone and considered a strategically important place for Lithuania. The complex even has its own rail access. Because of these reasons I would think it is probably more realistic to place the industrial complex not in the city of Jonava, but nearby, at X950 Y128.
You can check the industrial complex on a map, here: http://www.maps.lt/map/default.aspx?lang=en#q=Achema (please switch to ortophoto 2014)
Also please don't forget the relationship fixes I and others have posted
The complex takes up 360 hectares and employs over 1400 workers.
The primary product made there are fertilizers, but they also produce various gases and tars. It's a chemical industrial complex. There is even a hospital and firefighters station there.
The complex area is restricted access and is protected by a barbed wire. It is a no-fly zone and considered a strategically important place for Lithuania. The complex even has its own rail access. Because of these reasons I would think it is probably more realistic to place the industrial complex not in the city of Jonava, but nearby, at X950 Y128.
You can check the industrial complex on a map, here: http://www.maps.lt/map/default.aspx?lang=en#q=Achema (please switch to ortophoto 2014)
Also please don't forget the relationship fixes I and others have posted
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The hex x:1085 y:193 in Georgia has a Sea pier but no city / complex. Azerbaijan keeps sending its units there and they can embark, but they get stuck there.