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Improve the Debt system

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I think that the economy would become more dynamic from an advancement in the field of debt.

-Ability to also loan from other countries, besides from the current(IMF?), in the current bond UI(add a flag on the side of the sum)
-With the above point, the ability to have a interest income if your a lender
-One thing that one be beneficial is making the AI being better able to get out of it's debt situation
-Being able to loan money when the need it from other countries
-Ability to default, cut off ~1/3 of the nations dept, then start auto pay on daily basis to country of origin for a period of 30 years. Not paying these default payments would provide casus belli to the lender.
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Hullu Hevonen wrote:I think that the economy would become more dynamic from an advancement in the field of debt.

-Ability to also loan from other countries, besides from the current(IMF?), in the current bond UI(add a flag on the side of the sum)
-With the above point, the ability to have a interest income if your a lender
-One thing that one be beneficial is making the AI being better able to get out of it's debt situation
-Being able to loan money when the need it from other countries
-Ability to default, cut off ~1/3 of the nations dept, then start auto pay on daily basis to country of origin for a period of 30 years. Not paying these default payments would provide casus belli to the lender.
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Excellent idea.

And I would also add ability to got bancrupt if your debt becomes to great. And bancrupt means very nasty cuts in military, economy, production and diplomatic influence.

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Hell, I'd like to see different currencies and foreign currency reserves. Probably outside scope for their engine, though. I'd rather the time spent coding, UI designing, and balancing was spent in improving the AI and getting carriers to work right.
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Different currencies can be quite confusing to users, and don't add a lot to gameplay. There are various effects that currencies can have (different inflation in different regions, devaluation, etc), but it really is a very micro-managey thing that doesn't add much interest to the game.

And speaking of interest (oh, snap!), region-to-region loans and debt is not something we've done much with before... we've done more of the "world bank/IMF" sort of lending. Which, in 1936, plays a much smaller role. By default, we're looking at disabling world debt in 1936 campaigns, though this is a setting that you can change when you start a game.

The ability to loan region-to-region does exist in the diplomacy areas of the game, but it is both cumbersome and also not trusted by AI leaders, who will generally not offer or accept such arrangements. This is something that we will be looking into a bit for SR1936.

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George Geczy wrote: The ability to loan region-to-region does exist in the diplomacy areas of the game, but it is both cumbersome and also not trusted by AI leaders, who will generally not offer or accept such arrangements. This is something that we will be looking into a bit for SR1936.
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George Geczy wrote: The ability to loan region-to-region does exist in the diplomacy areas of the game, but it is both cumbersome and also not trusted by AI leaders, who will generally not offer or accept such arrangements. This is something that we will be looking into a bit for SR1936.
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So, translated from diplomatic language:
the ability to simulate loan exist in diplomacy areas of the (current) game, but it is unusable and you are planning to fix that. Thank you, that is a great news!! :D
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Zuikaku wrote:
George Geczy wrote: The ability to loan region-to-region does exist in the diplomacy areas of the game, but it is both cumbersome and also not trusted by AI leaders, who will generally not offer or accept such arrangements. This is something that we will be looking into a bit for SR1936.
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So, translated from diplomatic language:
the ability to simulate loan exist in diplomacy areas of the (current) game, but it is unusable and you are planning to fix that. Thank you, that is a great news!! :D
You know, my son is very skilled at listening to what I say and hearing something entirely different...
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Balthagor wrote: You know, my son is very skilled at listening to what I say and hearing something entirely different...
You say too little, so we have hard time figuring out what you want to say (joke) :-)
Anyway, you don't give us much info, so we are speculating based on the (scarce) info you give us... :wink:
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Balthagor wrote:
Zuikaku wrote:
George Geczy wrote: The ability to loan region-to-region does exist in the diplomacy areas of the game, but it is both cumbersome and also not trusted by AI leaders, who will generally not offer or accept such arrangements. This is something that we will be looking into a bit for SR1936.
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So, translated from diplomatic language:
the ability to simulate loan exist in diplomacy areas of the (current) game, but it is unusable and you are planning to fix that. Thank you, that is a great news!! :D
You know, my son is very skilled at listening to what I say and hearing something entirely different...
I'm very skilled in twisting your words to mean what I want them to.. semantics is fun. :D
(A power I don't use on BG because they are pretty forthright.. now other game devs.. who promise me 30 ******* heists at E3 then claim they meant 17 heists then claim what they really meant was 11 heists and 30 days and each day counts as a heist.. even thought the days are just segments within a heist... and.. erm nvm you get the point that i broke my own pre-order rule like a dummy I think lol) (cough Death to overkill cough)
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