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 Post subject: Re: Game runs very slowly
PostPosted: Nov 24 2011 
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can you tell me how you have improved the speed pcoud?

thx you


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 Post subject: Re: Game runs very slowly
PostPosted: Nov 25 2011 
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Hi Rain,

I haven't improved the speed, I haven't done anything.

I can just confirm what Fistalis explained, ie in my 2 previous games that became very slow to the point I had to give up, I have been able to see the situation Fistalis describes where you have a lot of units on tiny (a couple of hexes) islands. These units are moving forever because they try to destack (they are always more than 7 per hex), and according to Fistalis this is what can slow down the game pretty much. What happened specifically in my Venezuela game is the following: at some point I was at war with the US. The US have dozens of allies. All US allies deployed hundred of units as close as they could to Venezuela (but not IN Venezuela since they are not allowed to attack me directly, they have to attack from US territory, this is what is called proxy wars), ie on the islands that you can see north of the Venezuelian coast. I had 3 islands packed with units like Fistalis described.

Also, Fistalis explained how to load a savegame with another country than the one you were initially playing. So that gives you a mean to try to "solve" manually these kind of situations and see if there is an improvement. I haven't really tried that myself. I am afraid that even if you load as another country and either scrap all units packed on these islands or give them an order to move away, the IA might send units again as soon as you resume your game with your original country.

In my 3rd game, that I am still playing, I don't know exactly why, but the speed remained quite OK for a long time. I am now in 1968, I have conquered all of south Ameraica + the US, and the speed is around one minute per day (this is long when you are waiting for your nuclear plants to be built, but still acceptable, especially when you are at war, busy to manage your units, fleets, attacks etc.). Why was it OK this time and not the 2 before, I am not sure, even Fistalis said that he noticed different IA behaviours from one game to another. But I can say that I have not let the "island situation" happen again in my current game: by positionning fleets and submarines around the islands beforehand (because I knew what was going to happen) I just killed the dozens (hundreds?) of US allies merchant marine boats before they could land, then I just declared war to each and every island around Venezuela and annexed them :wink:

All in all, there are certainly several factors involved that impact game speed, and I truly believes that what Fistalis describes is one of them. Knowing that, we just have to wait that this "overpacked islands destacking issue" is solved in a future patch, or try to "influence" it like I did, or try to "manually solve" the issue as described by Fistalis.


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 Post subject: Re: Game runs very slowly
PostPosted: Nov 25 2011 
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wao! ok... thx for the explanation (certainly very good :) )

so... wait for a patch ... My game is not going... f@@@@


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 Post subject: Re: Game runs very slowly
PostPosted: Dec 01 2011 
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Similarly, I worry about the fall of game speed.
Is there any chance that performance will be improved with a patch?
I stopped the play in 1955.
Advance is too slow.
Is there any plan to improve? :-( :-( :-(


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 Post subject: Re: Game runs very slowly
PostPosted: Dec 08 2011 
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I purchased SR2020 a while back and enjoyed it immensely until this problem drove me away from playing it. I have the same story as everyone else in this thread and won't repeat the details but I'm quite disappointed that CW still slows down just as hard as 2020 did. I like your company. You deliver a game that is actually different from the majority.

But I'm going to leave CW unplayed after struggling for a week to look past days going from seconds to minutes. It may be technically playable but it's not enjoyably for me.

I apologize for registering, leaving negative feedback in a bug thread but that's where I am. Stuck on the game slowing down to a point where it's no longer fun. I've tried the solutions already posted; some like destacking a proxy war nations island death-fortress of light infantry help. Some like setting CW to only run on one of my quadcores four processors.. doesn't.

I'm hitting submit now in hopes that you find a solution for all of us that have had issues in the past and are still struggling with the slows.


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 Post subject: Re: Game runs very slowly
PostPosted: Dec 08 2011 
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I have similar issues, the game just runs to slow around 1955 for me to play it.
Regarding the quad core comments, I don't see any difference between using two cores or four, i.e. the game only rarely uses more than 25% of my quad core CPU.


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 Post subject: Re: Game runs very slowly
PostPosted: Dec 30 2011 
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Well for my 2 cents, the time per day slowdown wouldn't be a problem, cause you can just run it semi-afk. Did that alot mining in Eve Online (12 minutes to fill my mining barge). As to the play side of it running slowly (map scroll, etc), I don't mind that cause I tend to run things on the slower speeds when I have alot going on at once, and micromanaging something like battles I'll pause-give orders-unpause so just not an issue for me personally.

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 Post subject: Re: Game runs very slowly
PostPosted: Dec 30 2011 
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NukemRico wrote:
Well for my 2 cents, the time per day slowdown wouldn't be a problem, cause you can just run it semi-afk. Did that alot mining in Eve Online (12 minutes to fill my mining barge). As to the play side of it running slowly (map scroll, etc), I don't mind that cause I tend to run things on the slower speeds when I have alot going on at once, and micromanaging something like battles I'll pause-give orders-unpause so just not an issue for me personally.

This really comes down to play style.
People who tend to micromanage everything see less of an issue with slowdowns. Those who leave most things up to their ministers are going to be doing less overall so slowdowns are more of an issue for them.

That doesn't mean they shouldn't look into some of causes and fix things that are causing unnecessary slow down. I got a save game from Testing my mod where the destack bug is unbelievable(it was this test game that lead me to removing ports on small islands temporarily). 2min+ per day. Which is bad even for my OCD micromanaging playstyle. :lol:
(granted your not likely to hit that kind of slowdown in the campaign for quite a few years, gotta remember half the world are colonies so don't have military forces in the campaign)


As Balt said though there is no easy fix. They are still trying to adjust the AI to the new merchant marine ability(balt didn't say this but i'm pretty sure its true), and will continue to improve all areas and I will continue to try to make use of things they fix and add. (I still don't know wtf couppossibility and revoltpossibility actually do though.. i've played with them and can see no actual difference)

btw.
NukemRico wrote:
Lost control and went off the steep learning curve.

:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Game runs very slowly
PostPosted: Dec 31 2011 
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Some people are talking about enabling and disabling cores; I've got a Quad Core and have never seen the kind of speed some of you folks are talking about -- it's been pretty steadily 20 to 40 seconds a day, sometimes longer. Is there anything I can do to, perhaps, enable some disabled cores or something?

It's an I2 Quad Core Q8200 2.33 gHz.

Also, and forgive the n00bishness of this question, but how do I stop my ministers from having my units run around the map in seemingly random circles? As South Africa, I feel quite secure and don't think the UK is going to attack me any time soon. That might speed things up a bit as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Game runs very slowly
PostPosted: Dec 31 2011 
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Avindian wrote:
Some people are talking about enabling and disabling cores; I've got a Quad Core and have never seen the kind of speed some of you folks are talking about -- it's been pretty steadily 20 to 40 seconds a day, sometimes longer. Is there anything I can do to, perhaps, enable some disabled cores or something?

It's an I2 Quad Core Q8200 2.33 gHz.

Also, and forgive the n00bishness of this question, but how do I stop my ministers from having my units run around the map in seemingly random circles? As South Africa, I feel quite secure and don't think the UK is going to attack me any time soon. That might speed things up a bit as well.


Disabling cores only slows you down.
Your slower speeds are due to your processors speed. 2.33ghz is pretty slow these days. :wink:

As to your minister. You can either Turn your initiative to low in the minister screen or use the ROE to block the minister from being able to order specific units.

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 Post subject: Re: Game runs very slowly
PostPosted: Dec 31 2011 
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Fistalis wrote:
Avindian wrote:
Some people are talking about enabling and disabling cores; I've got a Quad Core and have never seen the kind of speed some of you folks are talking about -- it's been pretty steadily 20 to 40 seconds a day, sometimes longer. Is there anything I can do to, perhaps, enable some disabled cores or something?

It's an I2 Quad Core Q8200 2.33 gHz.

Also, and forgive the n00bishness of this question, but how do I stop my ministers from having my units run around the map in seemingly random circles? As South Africa, I feel quite secure and don't think the UK is going to attack me any time soon. That might speed things up a bit as well.


Disabling cores only slows you down.
Your slower speeds are due to your processors speed. 2.33ghz is pretty slow these days. :wink:

As to your minister. You can either Turn your initiative to low in the minister screen or use the ROE to block the minister from being able to order specific units.


I had no intentions of disabling cores; I actually wanted to see if I could check into making sure they weren't disabled :)


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 Post subject: Re: Game runs very slowly
PostPosted: Jan 01 2012 
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I have simiral problems with game speed. The computer I´m using is up-to-date. Now I´m playing USA in 1953 and one day takes about 1 min 40 secs. Actually this speed problem takes all the fun from otherwise nice game.


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 Post subject: Re: Game runs very slowly
PostPosted: Jan 13 2012 
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Fistalis wrote:
Its a destacking issue from what I can tell, theres something like 42 units in each hex there... and they are trying to destack.. which doesn't work well on a 2 hex island to say the least. North hex: full, I should move to south hex... South hex: full, I should move to north hex ad infinitum :wink:

This tends to cause some slowdown as it gets worse and worse with units never leaving the island once this starts. So any more that show up join into the game of musical hexes. manually switching to each nation and removing them fixes the slow down.. difference between 1:30 a day to 30 sec a day.

This doesn't happen every game.. which is why some games hit the slow down.. and others don't. The reason some people tie this to war is that without war being fought the allies won't flood the area with troops.. so it never starts.

If you experience massive slowdown while playing the campaign. turn off Fog of war and look for an area that resembles this picture. Thats the most likely cause in my opinion.


Ok so I am trying to do what Fistalis is talking about but when I move my saved game to the multiplayer folder it doesn't come up in the game. Can someone post detailed instructions or something because I love this game but the slowdown is killing me!


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 Post subject: Re: Game runs very slowly
PostPosted: Jan 13 2012 
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There should be a multiplayer folder in your Save games folder. If not create one.
Put the save inside it.
Load it up as a multiplayer game. Host your own session.
Choose The saved games icon.
Choose the save.
Assign yourself whatever country you want.
click yourself ready.
Start game.
Do your changes.
Save the game.
Load up the new save and repeat as needed.
If your going to move it back into single player games, the last time you save assign yourself your regular nation. (but you can keep playing in multi with out effecting anything)

If the war is still going on though, the AI will just move the units back again. So its best to wait til the war is over to do this.

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 Post subject: Re: Game runs very slowly
PostPosted: Jan 15 2012 
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Great! It worked, thanks! I found at least two islands that have seemingly hundreds of troops on them and Hong Kong has troops from almost every Western nation! The only problem is that when I try to remove French troops from Hong Kong, the transport ships cant leave the island. This doesn't happen for the British or American troops on the island, just the French. I've tried building more ports but nothing seems to work. I've even tried having France declaring war against China to clear the units by killing them off (I know I'm a horrible person). But that takes too long. It looks like I'll have to start over and fix this at the beginning. :-(


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