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Just a reminder for something that was notified before the first patch, so unsure it's still on the TO DO list since it was not done in previous patch

B-24J liberator - indirect air attack missing
SB2C-4E Helldiver - has carrier role instead of can land on carrier
SB2A-4 Buccaneer - missing can land on carrier role
P2V-2 Neptune - submerged attack of 14 (instead of 140 i guess?)
S629 Golf - wrong range (560640km actually, should be around 29000k since a diesel sub )
SSG-651 Juliett SSG - wrong range (578160km actually should be around 33000km since a diesel sub)

Why? The Nimrod @ 1971 has a sub attack of 36.

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I was just assuming it was wrong, since most others units have a higher sub attack, and since the Neptune was armed with rockets, bombs, torpedoes and deep charges (at least the Neptune used in France, not sure about the US version)

for exemple :

Mk.V Warwick - 65
Be6 Madge - 65
HP.59 Halifax GR.II - 120
P4M-1 Mercator - 125
and quite some others that are available in 1949

those coming with Military Production III have even a higher sub attack like the M.R.Mk.3 Shackleton - 310

In fact the Neptune served until it was replaced by the Orion, but i'm not sure if the P2V-2 was a dedicated anti-sub (as were later version), as it was also a patrol craft.

From Wikipedia (i'm not a specialist at all^^) in the Martin P4M Mercator article :
The Martin P4M Mercator was a maritime reconnaissance aircraft built by the Glenn L. Martin Company. The Mercator was an unsuccessful contender for a United States Navy requirement for a long-range maritime patrol bomber, with the Lockheed P2V Neptune chosen instead. It saw a limited life as a long-range electronic reconnaissance aircraft.

and P2V2 compared to the P4M for armament :
P2V2
Rockets: 2.75 in (70 mm) FFAR in removable wing-mounted pods
Bombs: 8,000 lb (3,629 kg) including free-fall bombs, depth charges, and torpedoes
P4M
4 × 20 mm (.79 in) cannons in nose and tail turrets
2 × .50 in (12.7 mm) machine guns in dorsal turret
Up to 12,000 lb (5,400 kg) of bombs, mines, depth charges, or torpedoes

This may reflect a general imbalance in our air-sub values, we'll investigate...

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Chris Latour
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Agreed; I did some digging over the weekend through the files, looking mostly at the Air/Sub values.

I can only suppose it is a game-balance issue. Air power, at least in WWII, was the telling factor for anti-sub warfare (more so than surface vs. sub warfare). It was only when modern (post 1960 or so) subs were able to go much deeper did this balance change for greater sub survivability.

The catch 22, I think, is that if you have a set of values for units (e.g., a WWII era unit has a combat value of 1, a 1990 era unit has a combat value of 20, meaning the 1990 unit is 20x more powerful), it becomes very destablizing to raise up values of old equipment too much. Example: A WWII era Buccaneer gets a antisub value of 20, but a P3 Orion gets a value of 40. However, the Buccaneer still has a chance of sinking a Virginia class modern sub (1/2 that of an Orion). That is completely ahistorical, as the WWII era plane would have 0 chance to actually do anything to a deep diving modern sub with its WWII era bombs and depth charges. The game system doesn't (that I know of) work that way--a value of 20 is still a value of 20, regardless of age.

I've noticed several other jet aircraft are also using combat radius (670 km) for there ranges, all F104 Starfighter's should have ranges of 1,740 km and the F4 Phantom II's 2,817 km.

The UK's Salisbury frigates should have a range of 12,075 km not 4,000 km. And the UK should be able to build the Rothesay class frigates, they were the precursors to the Leander class. South Africa would acquire three Rothesays in the 1950's.

Puts on his nitpicking hat.

You gave the M1114 HMMV a mesh that resembles some SUV.. rather than the HMMV model that's already in the game.

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Yeah, that looks like Iveco LMV

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The number 5 mesh(used by the light infantry), right? Is there a recon camo texture that could go with that?

Why there are no Panther tanks and jagdpanthers?? It is a little sad that the best WW2 medium tank is missing. France used a number of them after WW2. And so did the Syria.

Probably because they were all scraped by 1950 but I'm just guessing...

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yup. Takes time for every unit we had and we had to prioritize. I'm sure at some point we or a modder will spec it out and add it.

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Please put missing units on the Missing Units post. This post is only for Unit Erata.

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