Real production value

[burock82]

Hello

Can anyone describe me how the game calculates real prodcution value of goods,coal etc. ?

For example i have coal plants and if i consider just supply limit * production fomula, it does not match with my prodcution!

So i will be really greatful!

regards,

Burak

[burock82]

come on!!! Noone knows

[number47]

Use forum search option ...there have been a lot of discussions in the past about all sorts of calculations, formulas and what not about production values, costs, supply, etc.

[burock82]

i did but i couldnt find exact answer

i will continue to look but what i am confused is that my total production is less than when i count all total production of coal plants

[number47]

If I remember correctly, supply % and loyalty effects total production output. I can't remember how many does the different loyalty lowers the production but I always "transfer" the production from conquered territories to hexes loyal to me to avoid that effect.

[burock82]

for example like :

Country X

Oil production : 1000
Supply: %60
Loyalty : %100 loyal to country Y


Real production : 1000*0.60*0.50= 300 bbl

Maybe loyalty has an affect like this.

Is that true ?

[number47]

No, loyalty gives only penalty to production meaning it will have no effect on your production of goods within your country. For example, if you are France and you are producing something in hex with loyalty to France, than the only thing effecting your production is supply. If you are France and are producing something in hex that has loyalty to any other country, your production will be penalized by 66% lower output (not sure about exact % but I think it was lowering output to 1/3 of max possible) and on top of that production will tahe in account the supply level. Someone from the devs could probably give you more accurate response but they are busy with their new project.

Did you check the Supreme wiki for info on this matter?

[burock82]

Yeah they are working on new one! I can not blame them they are trying to make it perfect

Yes i looked there but only found an article related with supply, not production

[barkhauer]

Some of this info dates back to 2020, so it may be out of date, numbers may have changed, etc, but generally it works like this:

Total output = ((0.5 * loyalty)*base production) + (0.5 * base production * supply%) + (tech modifiers * base production)

So, a facility which has a theoretical output of 10,000 units of whatever, built on captured/not loyal land, with 79% supply level, and a 15% tech bonus, produces...

Total output = ((0.5 * 0) * 10000) + (0.5 * 10000 * 0.79) + (0.15 * 10000)
Total output = (0) + (3,950) + (1500)
Total output = 5,450

For most of the Cold War timespan, there are no tech bonii (at least, not unless you really tech rush), so even with good supply level, you're always going to see the biggest difference from loyal/not loyal land. This is what makes the "colonize" option so attractive, as your colony produces at "loyal = TRUE" levels, meaning that they will always produce AT LEAST twice what you would, and then hand the surplus to you while paying the costs themselves. Unless you desperately need population to alleviate runaway inflation or put more men in your armies, you're always better off colonizing than annexing for this reason alone.

[burock82]

Okey thats what i am looking for

thanks a lot