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 Post subject: The Ability to Give land back to the country by hex.
PostPosted: Sep 01 2010 
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There could be a diplomatic option to give your own land or request land from another country but it will be HARD to request and EASIER to Give. Like let's say I attack Egypt and take some of their land, then we could sign a peace treaty in return for their land by hex, could this be done please?

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 Post subject: Re: The Ability to Give land back to the country by hex.
PostPosted: Sep 01 2010 
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For conversation's sake since I would love for an option which accomplished this...

Developers would have to devise a formula for the AI to use for this action. Off the top of my head, values would be assigned to each hex by type, improvement(s), perhaps proximity to other hexes of value and or distance from Capitol. Then the AI would have to decide if a proferred trade was 'worth it'. Add in modifiers based on relations. Add in modifiers based on the AI country's need. Seems like a boat-load of variables.

If the formula was not well devised, it could definitely lead to some serious exploitation.

I'm sure there're other ways to go about it, sure would be nice to have as an option.

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 Post subject: Re: The Ability to Give land back to the country by hex.
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If they limited it to just the two combatants,the one who gained land only being able to trade that land to the one who lost it,it would remove a lot of the issues and add in another way to end a war.

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 Post subject: Re: The Ability to Give land back to the country by hex.
PostPosted: Sep 02 2010 
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Yes, Like when Israel withdrew from the Sinai. If I'm playing Israel I really don't want to invade Egypt, too much population and problems, so I'll just teach them a lesson, destroy their army and withdraw for peace.

However, I'f I'm playing Egypt I'd do nothing of the like, instead I'll invade, capture all major cities, and declare peace when Israel is a small 2-10 hex state under my influence.


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 Post subject: Re: The Ability to Give land back to the country by hex.
PostPosted: Sep 02 2010 
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I concur. A limited implementation could show up as a simple Peace option, e.g. Cede conquered territory.

The whole evaluation system discussed above might lend some methodology to a lend-lease program, however.

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 Post subject: Re: The Ability to Give land back to the country by hex.
PostPosted: Sep 03 2010 
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?+ I have 3 idea's here

1. Cede conquered territory. (but that is your guys idea. ^_^)

2. Province / region / State (USA) based system for easier trading in stead of Hexes ^^ .

3 Advanced - Hex land trading ..... |O (I mean come on Hex trading will be pain .)


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 Post subject: Re: The Ability to Give land back to the country by hex.
PostPosted: Sep 03 2010 
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If they use the method Paradox uses I would be happy.


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 Post subject: Re: The Ability to Give land back to the country by hex.
PostPosted: Sep 03 2010 
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How about taking a lesson from MSpaint? Just have a brush, paint-bucket and marquee tool to 'paint' land, fill in areas and grab a large plot of land by dragging the mouse.

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 Post subject: Re: The Ability to Give land back to the country by hex.
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We'd then be back to where we were in sr2010,and the AI would need a very good system for determining the worth of hexes.Which is the harder part.

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 Post subject: Re: The Ability to Give land back to the country by hex.
PostPosted: Sep 04 2010 
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We should trade land we who we want to. Several times i was at war with a neighbor and an ally attacked him and took land. And when we finally defeated the enemy, my ally had land inside my territory and vice versa. We should be able to trade land freelly. The player must be conscious to use this tool...


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