Eep. That last post i read just woke me up. While i'm always up for a challenge I have to say I get a bit scared when a dev says they cannot beat their own mission...that disturbs me a bit. If a dev who built the game and knwos it inside out can't beat a mission still how will we? how will this effect game play and advancement in the game?
I am referring at this point to China/Taiwan but are there any other missions you guys still have not been able to beat? What happens if it does become an impossible mission? Will you guys be issuing a patch? Eitherway if it is an impossible mission it would bea bit unfair.
Oh no! Unbeatable scenario?!
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remember, each mission is a stand-alone mission. It is possible to "remake" a mission if we don't like how it turns out but having some that are impossible simply allows ppl to try out certain ideas to see if they can break it. We'll just make sure everyone knows so that we don't overly frustrate them.
Documentation has been included that tells ppl how to make their own missions but it is unsupported documentation. Not that that usually stops ppl from figuring it out...
Documentation has been included that tells ppl how to make their own missions but it is unsupported documentation. Not that that usually stops ppl from figuring it out...
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As well, I'm not sure where on the forum we detail this, but it doesn't hurt to repeat the differences between our 'scenarios' and our 'missions':
A 'scenario' can be either a stand-alone map, or part of a campaign game. The goal of a scenario is unification under one ruler, one way or another. In some scenarios a "unification vote" is scheduled, allowing a purely diplomatic option, in others a military approach is required. (Even the unificaiton vote scenarios can be attempted through military conquest instead, if that is your desired approach, or if you happen to be losing in the polls
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'Missions' start with a scenario file but add specific conditions and situations. Example mission goals supported by Supreme Ruler 2010:
- 'Kill the Leader' (ie 'Regicide') - in our case, leaders are represented by Command Units.
- Capture a map location.
- Defend a map location.
- Hold off an attack
- Eliminate an opponent
- 'Deliver' a leader (reach a map location with your command unit)
The basic method of creating a Mission is to create a saved-game file with the 'setup', and then create a configuration file with the rules and time limits.
Missions give us the chance to add some very interesting new challenges to the game, at all sorts of different skill levels.
The China/Taiwan mission was thought of as a very interesting (and topical) idea, though after being created we found it to be rather difficult (which probably explains why the Chinese haven't tried it yet
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One of the biggest challenges in the Taiwan mission is the fact that there is an 8-month time limit. As well, it is not all of China involved in the attack, but only one province (or group of provinces, I forget which). It turns out that this may be too short a time to be able to build up an invasion force, soften up the target, and do the landing.
However, I would not put it past players to come up with some creative ideas here, and possibly pull it off. And there are many simpler missions available if this proves to be too 'impossible'.
-- George.
A 'scenario' can be either a stand-alone map, or part of a campaign game. The goal of a scenario is unification under one ruler, one way or another. In some scenarios a "unification vote" is scheduled, allowing a purely diplomatic option, in others a military approach is required. (Even the unificaiton vote scenarios can be attempted through military conquest instead, if that is your desired approach, or if you happen to be losing in the polls
)'Missions' start with a scenario file but add specific conditions and situations. Example mission goals supported by Supreme Ruler 2010:
- 'Kill the Leader' (ie 'Regicide') - in our case, leaders are represented by Command Units.
- Capture a map location.
- Defend a map location.
- Hold off an attack
- Eliminate an opponent
- 'Deliver' a leader (reach a map location with your command unit)
The basic method of creating a Mission is to create a saved-game file with the 'setup', and then create a configuration file with the rules and time limits.
Missions give us the chance to add some very interesting new challenges to the game, at all sorts of different skill levels.
The China/Taiwan mission was thought of as a very interesting (and topical) idea, though after being created we found it to be rather difficult (which probably explains why the Chinese haven't tried it yet
)One of the biggest challenges in the Taiwan mission is the fact that there is an 8-month time limit. As well, it is not all of China involved in the attack, but only one province (or group of provinces, I forget which). It turns out that this may be too short a time to be able to build up an invasion force, soften up the target, and do the landing.
However, I would not put it past players to come up with some creative ideas here, and possibly pull it off. And there are many simpler missions available if this proves to be too 'impossible'.
-- George.
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