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Posted: Nov 23 2005
by tkobo
Im reminded of the "guy" stepping on my foot, all the while telling me how sorry he is too be doing it, yet continueing to do it all the same.

It somehow lacks convinction.Hence i have asked nicely.

Posted: Nov 24 2005
by haenkie
hehehe you are right. Sometimes my 'worries/frustrations' take the better of me.

There is alot of biofuel already made and use.

That better? :wink:

Posted: Dec 07 2005
by konan
--> synthetic fuel plants

i admit that are nice and helpfull. I build 4 of them and soon maybe other 2.

their price is payable to keep your economy to be self sufficient, or help in this direction, for what concern the petrol problem.

In my ignorance i thought that these plants will use coal to produce fuel, or at least would use some sort of "raw" material.

anyway i appreciate their presence inside game !!!

... so now my "panzer" can invade europe ... :D

Posted: Dec 14 2005
by Sebastiaan
tkobo wrote:I never did hear anything after the initial "hype" about that though.

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/4/24/02152/3927

We talked about it on the forum here a couple of years ago,but i cant find the post.
Exactly what is the name of this technology?

Posted: Dec 14 2005
by tkobo
"Thermal depolymerization" I think is the name for it, but we can just call it "Stan" :P

I still dont know if this is for real or not.Again info on this is VERY hard to find.

Posted: Dec 15 2005
by bergsjaeger
:lol: There's something I didn't think about earlier for synth fuel. There is a county here in Alabama that is running all their city vehicles off a snyth fuel (police, firetrucks, garbage trucks, ect). The fuel is non other than White Lightning. :lol: White lightning is also known as Moon shine or simply a hard liquor. Its made from corn. Its not hard to make and it will run in any diesel engine. :lol: I know I tried. The problem is it give the engine alot of octane and makes the engine run faster. But it burns cleaner than oil fuel and can be made easily and its resource will never run out unless there isn't enough corn grown. :lol: Another problem is not just anyone can make it because its iilegal to make in the states but a distillery can. (non-taxable anything seems illegal in the states)

Posted: Dec 15 2005
by BigStone
bergsjaeger wrote: There is a county here in Alabama that is running all their city vehicles off a snyth fuel (police, firetrucks, garbage trucks, ect). The fuel is non other than White Lightning
Damn... waste.... :D

Cheers

Posted: Dec 15 2005
by bergsjaeger
:lol: If u ever drunk the stuff u wouldn't think it was a waste. It feels like u just drunk an acid it burns so bad. :lol: course it is strong stuff.

Posted: Dec 16 2005
by Uriens
BigStone wrote:
bergsjaeger wrote: There is a county here in Alabama that is running all their city vehicles off a snyth fuel (police, firetrucks, garbage trucks, ect). The fuel is non other than White Lightning
Damn... waste.... :D

Cheers
:D :D :D

Posted: Dec 16 2005
by tkobo
Geez, can you just imagine the grief that would come from a drinkable alcohol fuel for vehicles.

Youd have to arm fuel station attendents and even then you'd have to call the police daily to deal with the people who would just pump the "fuel" right into their mouths .

Drunk driving would probably go up like 5000%+ .

Posted: Dec 16 2005
by Seydlitz
Just add some cyanide to make that a nonviable option :wink: .

Posted: Dec 16 2005
by bergsjaeger
:lol: Actually I know some ppl that would drink from an alcohol pump. But as for it being drinkable I doubt it. Because the White Lightning their using for vehicles is refine to be runned safe in the vehicles. It wouldn't be a good mix of fire and white lightning. :D (I have started campfires with the stuff). I think there's still gasoline in the mix somewhere. I have to check but I think the mixture is 75% white Lightning 25% diesel or gasoline. The % maybe off some but I think its close to that. Course something else about White Lightning if they make it strong enough then the White lightning be cleaning the motor as well. :lol: U could use the stuff for any kind of cleaner. :lol: espeically as a disinfectant.

Posted: Oct 16 2006
by Covfam
There are alot of Alternative fuels used that people dont realize. for years a small number of people have been running Diesel engine vehicles on nothing but corn oil or vegtible oils. no they are not nearly as efficient as regular diesel. and in cold climate they have to have to "warm it up before starting thier engine. but its been working fine for a few years there are a few alternative fuel stations in the country now. there was a big showing on fox news and cnn of a particular station in california that sell it and diesel vehicles who run off of it.

also alot of people dont realize that in the midwest from the dakotas to wisconsin a lot of the gas stations sell Ethanol (E85 & E95) fuels wich E85= 85% ethanol 15% gasoline and E95 = 95% ethanol 5% gasoline. in fact chevrolet has 3 trucks/suv/svans that use E85 and dodge has 2 minivans, 1 car 1 truck and 1 SUV that uses E85. but the US department of energy says as of 2005 there have been 5million Flex Fuel vehicles sold in the united states yet roughly 2/3rds of the owners of the flexfuel vehicles realize that they can run thier vehicles on E85. now prices in my neighborhood show that the E85 here sells for about 70% per gallon than unledded gasoline. but it only gets about half the MPG making it a little more expensive to use. also in the new earlier this year before the gas hike in western washington state the worlds largest Ethanol refinery and estimates to double the nations current Ethanol production levels.

Now back to the game i always though of the "other" power plants to be a combination of ethanol,hydrogen,wind power generation. and its a very real and viable form of power production on a small scale but in game ive tried to run the my Russian republic wich is made up of russia,poland,islamic states and pakistan and it broke the back of my fragile and newly over extended economy. i need to find a way to keep the power coming to my people without using all my fuel and coal doing so! WW3 scenario really has given me an appreciation of how difficult it was for the Former soviet union to just keep running with or without the arms race!

Posted: Oct 16 2006
by Feltan
Rebuild Chernobyl -- several dozen times over. :roll:

Regards,
Feltan

Posted: Oct 16 2006
by BigStone
And you can do some research.There are for -other- powerplants several
techs that will boost your production to a total of +80% (iirc correct...)