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So than, the numbers shown for production of a hex are NOT the actual numbers....
They are before modifier numbers....


But even with that, id agree, we still dont see any sign that the loyaly penalty is working.

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Are you sure it dindt working? Perhabs the penalty drops to zero after a nation is conquered.

If anyone do a test with fabs in a region where he is still fighting, we could be sure.

Ok, right, lay it on me. What kind of test?

You forgot a (warning irony) smilie?

Due to my generational gap, I seldom use emotes/smilies/etc other than the basic or :(
I also do not text using a phone.

Heh, smiles are like woman talking. They can go on and on but somhow I never hear them. As for texting, Only if it is quicker then acualy calling them.

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Don't tell me it's false, tell the mods. I got that number from one of their posts.

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Supply and loyalty both affect production output, George has not given me the formulas.

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Chris Latour
BattleGoat Studios
chris@battlegoat.com

Pwned9080, sry, being polite works complete different in german. Cause of my bad engl, iam clueless how to match the "engl polite way". On the other hand, many "engl polite answers" are just kidding from my point of view. Assume politeness is the only one i can do...

Balthagor. There is only 1 possiblility left. The numbers in the production overview are wrong...no thx, i dont believe and test this.



66.819/58324 = 1,14566
71862/62720 = 1,14576

0.01% differenz. Close enough to nothing, and there are some other multiplieres which could have changed within this 1 day. Loyalty have some other effects. But sure not on production after the region has fallen.

wrong that they don't reflect the penalty for loyalty? This is the the lowered department itself?

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Chris Latour
BattleGoat Studios
chris@battlegoat.com

The numbers shown in the hex are ok.



The numbers shown in the production summery, you call it subdepartment, are ok.

I dont want to test if:

Day1 stockpile + daily production - daily use = day 2 stockpile

is wrong.

FYI, this bug is fixed in Global Crisis and the fix will be part of Update 5

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Chris Latour
BattleGoat Studios
chris@battlegoat.com

Back to topic: Why can't the loyalty of the regions change? There really are countries or territories which would be happy if someone would "liberate" them. For example the Golan Plate, or the Gaza-area in Israel. Or after WWII, the western part of USSR, which was originally polish territory. Or South-Slovakia after WWI. We could give you billions of examples.
I'm sure that it would cost some additional CPU power but I think it would worth it.

Lets talk about the effect, before we talk about what we wanny change.

1) Unloyal territory can revolt, if (as long) you are at war with the nation. If thery surrender, loyalty change imediatly.

2) Unloyal territory can switch the ownership, if an ally reconquer it. Again, if the nation does not exist any more, the effect cant occure.

3) Unloyal territory give a 25% production penalty now. It has no effect on the production cost, you only need more fabs.

I would say, dont waste time on this BG. We just build some new fabs.

It's not because of the penalty but the welfare of the citizens. If they aren't loyal to me, they won't be happy...