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to be made declare war by a particular country

#1 Post by lkronos » Jul 26 2007

Hi, excuse me for my poor English, I am French, and I use a site of translation (shame)

Here my problem that many people who begin in this play have to have. I have France. I play the Europe scenario. I am combined with the United Kingdom, Germany, the Benelux countries, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Scandinavia, Estonia, and Belarus. Switzerland was conquered by Italy. Germany is in war against my allies which are bordering with it, I conquered Poland, Slovakia, the Czech Republic and Hungary. I would like to extend even more my conquests only here, I declare the war in the Ukraine, and all the country of Balkans plus Lithuania declares me also the war, and no help of my allies close (Italy, Belarus, Estonia) Donc I would like to ask you the following question: How to make me declare the war by Ukrine without all the other countries declaring me the querre in their turn?


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#2 Post by Balthagor » Jul 26 2007

I saw that you posted on the French forum as well, I will post a reply there. This topic has been discussed before on this forum;

Réponse sure site francais
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#3 Post by lkronos » Jul 26 2007

Ok thanks for your reply :-)

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#4 Post by Justifier » Sep 02 2007

hey Balthagor can you explain the solution in english also.Or if there is a topic about it already, can you give me the link or it.(I looked around the forum but I couldn't find one so far)

It is really annoying for me too.When I attacked a country, all of the other ones declare war after a while!

Thanks.

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#5 Post by Balthagor » Sep 02 2007

The basic answer was that it was not possible. Causus Belli is generated by taking actions, it would be like the US trying to find a way to be justified attacking Canada or Mexico. The only way around this is to ally to a nation hated by your target. If your target DoW on this new ally, you will get CB towards them for this action.

If you're looking for more info on this area, look up any of the threads talking about Diplomacy or Causus Belli.
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#6 Post by tkobo » Sep 03 2007

Bal's right thats it pretty much automatic, as the penalty you accrue for declaring war is appplied to all regions on the map- except allies.

Theres the one way i know of to control this rush to war by everyone on the map when you declare war.

If you make some allies in strategic positions,those allies will NOT be likely to break the allaince and declare war on you.It can happen under very severe circumstances that they break their alliance and come after you, but you really have to earn it :lol:

So lets say your playing on the europe map and you want to take germany.
Make an alliance with france, austro-hungary and poland first.This way when you declare war on germany,even if you have zero belli against them,those three regions will be very unlikely to break their alliance and come after you.
You can than , at your pleasure pick them one at a time and break the alliance yourself with them, which will often allow them to declare on you.
Thereby fighting them one at a time, or at least in numbers you choose for the most part.
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#7 Post by Justifier » Sep 05 2007

Hmm. tkobo gave a reasonable solution for a country with a strong economy and a large military force.However I like playing smaller countries such as Bulgaria.And my problems are coming from this.
For example as Bulgaria I want to fight Serbia.With all my effords to build a large army,I can not fight Greece and Romania together.With your solution making alliance with them ( I do not know how to do that still because of the small economy of my country.I can not bribe them with 100M $ per day!I don't have money for that!?!) will cover my back.But what about the other countries?If I complete my invasion of Serbia, Bosnia or Crotia will attack me also.Maybe Hungary too.I can't be ally with everybody!When I declare war on someone,every one of the countries in the scenario hates me! :-( So I need things like Balthagor said (about being ally with countries which are at war with my target.)

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#8 Post by tkobo » Sep 05 2007

Justifier wrote: With your solution making alliance with them ( I do not know how to do that still because of the small economy of my country.I can not bribe them with 100M $ per day!I don't have money for that!?!) will cover my back.But what about the other countries?
Tkobo enters the room and looks around.

He motions to Justifier "pssst.... over here"

http://www.bgforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8902
http://www.bgforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8897

He points in a certain direction ^

A noise pierces the silence from the other end of the room.

Tkobo freezes.Than scans the room,spoting nothing,smelling no scent of mush ,and hearing no rattle of prescription pills in their plastic containers he sighs,than says:
"All clear no Feltan sign yet, but be careful and be fast,he's a relentless hunter".

Than tkobo slips out of room.
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#9 Post by Feltan » Sep 05 2007

tkobo wrote: ..and hearing no rattle of prescription pills in their plastic containers he sighs,than says:
"All clear no Feltan sign yet, but be careful and be fast,he's a relentless hunter".

Than tkobo slips out of room.
I keep my all my viagra in a paper envelope for that very reason. Probably being too cautious -- none of the old bags can hear that well anyway.

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