Tutorial - how to make the Diplomatic relations better

tboy21 · Post by **tboy21** » Jun 05 2005

A.K.A - How to make the AI accept treaties

here is a typical situation (from the - MidEast scenario)

The not so wanted situation: you play as israel - at the first attempt you play as every beginer playes, send a diplomatic offer to syria, and syria sais that they wont deal with you.. after few times that no alliance have been signed you wait a few days and then a war start, you conquer syria - meet Iraq - that declares war, continue the war and then Iran joins and so on until you runout of money and goes bankrupt... GAME OVER

and here is how it should be
you are Israel and Syria is about to decalre war, you dont want war (atleast not now;)) so to delay or even prevent war you'll need the diplomatic tool!

- to be able to sign treaties (the important ones - such as alliances and such) you'll need the AI's Diplomatic rating (under the AI's flag in the relations section) to reach atleast a 'satisfied' rating (if the civilian rating bar is at least in the middle) and 'pleased' (if the civilian rating is at the bottom)

Q: how do you realy gets to the point that a foe becomes your 'best friend'?

A: propose alot of one-sided-treaties such as:

- money (recomended): send small amounts of money each time and you'll see the dip. rating goes up each time a little bit

- research (If you dont have alot of money):
not recomended, use as little as you can untill you can sign the not threating treaties such as free trade and such

- resources: the same as money

Q: I sent money 2-3 times and still cant sign a treaty - it looks hopeless

A: nothing is hopeless, patience is the key - send ALOT of one-sided-treaties and at the same time look at the relations section - if the dip. relations reached 'satisfied' and you still cant sign an alliance, give the AI more money untill the AI's Dip. rating reaches 'pleased' rating, you can allways add some money to the alliance offer to sweeten the pill

tboy21 · Post by **tboy21** » Jun 05 2005

hope this tutorial helps you all for a better gameplay

tboy21 · Post by **tboy21** » Jun 06 2005

BTW: please answer the poll at the top, its realy impotant to me

tboy21 · Post by **tboy21** » Jun 06 2005

If it didn't helped you - please post what you've done and I'll help you to solve the problem

I've tested it - and even syria made an alliance with me

and another important thing - It takes ALOT of one-sided treaties to raise the relations high enough.

CrazyCarolinian · Post by **CrazyCarolinian** » Jun 06 2005

your suggestions helped me out but i cant seem to send one sided treaties involving money. do i have to request something in order to give money?

tboy21 · Post by **tboy21** » Jun 06 2005

at the bottom right side in the 'treaty somthing'

there is - a "request none"
mark it and U be able to send the treaty

Xetal · Post by **Xetal** » Jun 06 2005

It seems kind of cheesy to have to click into diplomacy, send a tiny amount of money, and rinse/repeat 100 times to improve releations.

Realistically they would be just as happy getting 100m one time as they would getting 1m 100 times... and it would save 30 minutes of pointless clicking :p

tboy21 · Post by **tboy21** » Jun 06 2005

you'r right' and the thing is that doesn't matter if you send 1m or 100m it's the same effect

Post by **Balthagor** » Jun 06 2005

Xetal wrote:It seems kind of cheesy to have to click into diplomacy, send a tiny amount of money, and rinse/repeat 100 times to improve releations.

Realistically they would be just as happy getting 100m one time as they would getting 1m 100 times... and it would save 30 minutes of pointless clicking :p

This is an identified bug. We will be rebalancing how the AI views free offers but the amount does make a difference when part of a deal. If they say Ally for Ally if you pay 2billion and you counter with 1.8B, they might accept, but with 100M, they will reject.

tboy21 · Post by **tboy21** » Jun 07 2005

Balthagor wrote: This is an identified bug. We will be rebalancing how the AI views free offers but the amount does make a difference when part of a deal. If they say Ally for Ally if you pay 2billion and you counter with 1.8B, they might accept, but with 100M, they will reject.

and what about the diplomatic rating? will it change dramaticly if you give him an extremly amount of money?

and what do you mean - about the "rebalancing"?

Post by **Balthagor** » Jun 07 2005

I mean that telling you what it does now won't help you because it will work differently after a future update.

Rebalancing means we will change how the AI looks at offers and makes decisions to accept/reject/counter in particular where money is involved.

tboy21 · Post by **tboy21** » Jun 08 2005

Balthagor wrote:I mean that telling you what it does now won't help you because it will work differently after a future update.

details please.

Post by **Balthagor** » Jun 08 2005

What details are you looking for? Explaining rebalancing would take as long as doing the rebalancing...

tboy21 · Post by **tboy21** » Jun 09 2005

OK... will it be easier to make the AI happy?
(raising the diplomatic relations)

Post by **Balthagor** » Jun 09 2005

I have no idea, we're not yet doing the rebalancing...

I'm not going to make promises ahead of time, I've done that before and gotten jumped on when things changed.

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