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George Geczy
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The Defense industry actually DROP prices? I think that stretches believability too far :razz:
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I disagree about the world equipment disqualifier. The whole point of having World Equipment is that it is available to everbody!!! U.S. equipment is probably better and more expensive. If players want a cheaper version, why not go to the world??? Besides what about border regions? Arizona and New mexico should be able to buy arms from Mexico and other Latin American countries. Same goes for the New England regionsm shouldn't they be allowed to acess millitary tech from Canada? World equipment should be available to everybody!!!!
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Ah yes, that great Canadian military technology - how 'bout Ballistic Back Bacon, or maybe the high-velocity hockey puck projectile :grin:

SR2010 trivia: In our initial prototype versions, we had some tech items hardwired into the game for show, and one was the "Poutine Launcher". (Poutine is a French-Canadian concoction with french fries, cheese and gravy.) In our first meeting with Strategy First at their Montreal headquarters, one of the SF execs called our Poutine Launcher idea a "weapon of mass destruction" :razz:

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PS - for the record, Canada does make the very highly rated LAV-III and Stryker armoured vehicles for the US Military, as well as the more stereotypical Bombardier Skidozer "oversnow" vehicle used by many militaries throughout the world...
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So, what are you going to do for border regions?
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Post by George Geczy »

Oh yeah, the topic at hand :smile:

"We're thinking on it...."

Though currently I'm still on the side of the increased regional restrictions, it simulates "local knowledge" base a bit better, and also clears the equipment lists from some very unusual clutter. However, that being said, we WILL be having the World Market offer equipment from other regions as part of the "international arms market", allowing any region to purchase stuff from all over the world. That isn't in the current build yet, but should hopefully be appearing soon.

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Post by ilkhan »

About things like the MIM-14 I would like to see things like this stay in the game.
Perhaps with a line of AA missile system upgrades.
Just think if a nation put all this money into a very formidable missle defence system like the MIM-14 is with is static batterys and radar systems it may be inclined to simply upgrade the system.
Lets look at the advantages to the MIM-14
1: The missles themselves are large. meaning they could be upraded with much more sophisticated guidance systems.
2: ease of supply and maintanace because of there implaced positions.
3: The system itself is much better then the patriot in range and max altitude. Which is good for a good layered defence.

All in all IMHO a system like the MIM-14 would be nice to have as an addition to Patriots. Prehaps a Hercules II system could be devised as theoretical gear that 'could' have happened. Say a missile two or three times the size of a patiot missile. With tremendous range and explosive firepower.Something to layer in with the patriot system and point defence weapons.
Nations like Iraq and the old Soviet Union relied heavely on implaced AA missile systems. I could see western and 'World' nations wanting a large AA missile defence capability as well.

Of course we all no the drawbacks to non-mobile AA systems. They are easy to locate and take out with stealth aircraft (depending on tech levels as I've heard the Czechoslovakians have a radar system that can see our stealth aircraft, not sure about that though). But it is reasonable to assume that a layered defence is still a sound doctrain to aspire to.
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Post by JXai »

George, I like the decision. Although a national economy (i.e. USA) could support an army of M1 Abrams tanks, a regional economy (i.e. Nebraska) might want to have a more fluent army made of M60s rather than a small army made of M1s. It's a question of scale, and should the scenario proposed by the game occur, I think you'd see regression to older technologies for economy's sake.
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Post by Vesson »

Shouldn't diplomacy and relations between nations be the guiding factor in whether certain units can be built/researched?

Eg, (being australian) Shouldn't Australia have access to a wide range of American & U.K. military equipment should it require it? Or are we assuming that in the current 2010 climate that old bonds such as these are now forfeit?
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