F-5 Higher tech than F-16?
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That's OK, its only 2430km/h out!
Seriously, what is the relationship beween max performance and actual performance? I assume that one equals the other, yet this is not always so IRL.
Prime example- MiG-25, max speed clean M=3.2, operationally M=2.5 (apparently the engines could not be throttled ie controlled above Mach 2. . Do Tornados intercept at M=2.2 (which they would never hit under operational conditions) or the more realistic subsonic patrol speeds (and does this matter 'in game'). I notice some of the recent 'theoretical equipment' posts have suggested that aircraft performance is superior to official statistics, whereas it has always been my understanding that the official stats were usually the best times or altitudes under optimal conditions in a clean configuation, in other words not combat conditions.
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Seriously, what is the relationship beween max performance and actual performance? I assume that one equals the other, yet this is not always so IRL.
Prime example- MiG-25, max speed clean M=3.2, operationally M=2.5 (apparently the engines could not be throttled ie controlled above Mach 2. . Do Tornados intercept at M=2.2 (which they would never hit under operational conditions) or the more realistic subsonic patrol speeds (and does this matter 'in game'). I notice some of the recent 'theoretical equipment' posts have suggested that aircraft performance is superior to official statistics, whereas it has always been my understanding that the official stats were usually the best times or altitudes under optimal conditions in a clean configuation, in other words not combat conditions.
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I think I made that suggestion. Yes, most published performance characteristics are based on non-combat conditions. That really does not affect the suggestion that published performance is often somewhat less than actual.On 2003-05-02 17:43, Mewshkin wrote:
I notice some of the recent 'theoretical equipment' posts have suggested that aircraft performance is superior to official statistics, whereas it has always been my understanding that the official stats were usually the best times or altitudes under optimal conditions in a clean configuation, in other words not combat conditions.
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Aircraft values are all input at optimal values. We do make the planes aftificially "slower" at times and decrease their gas consumption somewhat to simulate what happens in real life but a Tornado going out to intercept would fly as fast as if it was empty. This was our attempt to simulate some of the issues with aircraft and fuel consumption rates. Some elements of RL needed to be set aside for gameplay.
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No problem. I also can come across as miffed when I am only trying to be accurate. My dad was a "Sarge" for 20+ years, and some of his bluntness rubbed off on me.On 2003-05-06 07:59, Mewshkin wrote:
Geta: My tone was a bit "I know what the hell I'm talking about", when I don't really! No needle intended.
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