will there be paratroops ?

tkobo · Post by **tkobo** » Sep 02 2002

How about subs delivering elite force units ?

Landing craft for those invasions by sea ?

Post by **George Geczy** » Sep 03 2002

We'll definitely have landing craft. I'm not so sure we'll have subs delivering special forces, that doesn't sound like it fits our basic design.

But Paratroops are a definite yes - nothing like dropping a few thousand men from the sky on an unsuspecting enemy!

XeroMan · Post by **XeroMan** » Sep 07 2002

When you say paratroopers, does this include the ability to airdrop artillery, tanks, etc?

Post by **Balthagor** » Sep 09 2002

Currently we don't have any tanks or artillery that can be airdropped. I don't think tanks can be! We do allow for artillery to be moved around by transport helicopters, so long as the weight of the units is less than the cargo cap of the unit. Usually you would need to use something like a C-130 to move these around!

... I suppose you could drop the tanks out when your over the enemy position, but I think you'll only damage them if the tanks land on their heads! Don't think the tanks will be worth much after they land!

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XeroMan · Post by **XeroMan** » Sep 10 2002

Here's some info on the subject of airdropping tanks. I doubt the M1 at 90+tons could be dropped, but lighter veichles can be. Besides, isn't that one of the things research is for?

<snip> The C-17 is capable of carrying out an air drop of outsize firepower Ã such as the Sheridan tank or the Bradley fighting vehicle, if the Bradley is refitted to be air-drop capable. Three Bradley armoured vehicles comprise one deployment load on the C-17.
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http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/c17/

http://www.qmfound.com/airkorea2.gif (granted it's only a jeep) http://www.qmfound.com/airkorea6.gif (here is a howitzer that was dropped)
http://www.qmfound.com/aerial_present.htm (one of these pics apparently shows a Sheridan being dropped, but it's hard to make out.)

The technology is viable, and what fun it would be to drop a few armoured veichles across enemy lines!

tkobo · Post by **tkobo** » Oct 12 2002

How about dummy drops ?They were extremely effective in w2.
Maybe make it a covert op for the espionage department ?

Hellfish6 · Post by **Hellfish6** » Oct 13 2002

The M-551 Sheridan light tank was the only tank that was ever used by any military that was considered air-droppable. In fact, I think a few of them were parachuted into Panama with the 82nd Airborne during the intervention there in '89.

There have been several other vehicles that have come and gone that were capable of being dropped by parachute - namely the Tetrarch light tank from WWII up to the modern XM-8 light tank (which was not actually purchased by the US Army, and is basically a half-sized M-1 Abrams).

The Soviets especially had many light armored vehicles developed for airborne drops. The BMD-series of infantry fighting vehicles were all specifically designed to be parachuted behind enemy lines. The BRMD recon vehicles are all air-droppable and the ASU-57 and ASU-85 assault guns were designed for the Airborne forces of the USSR. In fact, nearly all Soviet airborne/airlanding units were actually mechanized infantry forces that had lots of small IFVs and no tanks.

tkobo · Post by **tkobo** » Oct 14 2002

This tank air drop topic got me interested so I went out looking.Well, that and I couldnt sleep

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http://www.af.mil/photos/Jun1999/199906 ... s-001.html

http://www.global-defence.com/pages/mobile.html

http://www.af.mil/photos/Jun1999/199906 ... s-015.html

http://www.af.mil/photos/Jun1999/199906 ... s-005.html

These pics answer the question of "is there aircraft that can even carry them ?"

Doesnt say anything about dropping it though.
I wonder if they can do those drag drops where the aircraft never actaully lands but instead lets the cargo fall out the back of the aircraft at very low altitude so it kind of slides/drags on the runway behind it.

Oh, what is this ?I found it on the web.
http://www.supremeruler2010.com/SRUNITS.txt

Post by **George Geczy** » Oct 14 2002

[quote]Oh, what is this ?I found it on the web.
http://www.supremeruler2010.com/SRUNITS ... TR></TABLE><!-- BBCode Quote End

Ah, the things we leave lying around the place

Last year we posted the first version of the equipment list on our web site to get some feedback on the data tracked, and the units we included. Since then it's had lots of work, and some fields have been added/changed, though the text file gives you an idea still of what specs we track per unit.

If anybody out there has ideas or would like to assist with the work on the Equipment list file, Chris is always looking for volunteers

-- George.

XeroMan · Post by **XeroMan** » Oct 14 2002

Oh, and another question on air drops....
Will we be able to drop food/money/etc. on a region to make them love us?

Post by **BattleGoat** » Oct 15 2002

"Will we be able to drop food/money/etc. on a region to make them love us?"

I can't help thinking about that scene from "Air America" where they paradrop pigs to the locals

The answer to your question is "Yes" you will be able to send aid to your neighbours and offer loans etc...